Unifying Theory of Gravity, maybe.

[Phi for All]

What makes you think I want this for myself? Maybe I'm sharing something of this magnitude to the skeptical public BECAUSE I need help. Hrmm? That doesn't happen normally? Neither does deducing a unifying gravity theory, but look at that.

People who know they need help with a concept don't normally walk in claiming it's wrong, they claim it's hard. I'll show you how this looks:

 

You already told me my evidence was hogwash before I presented it, that's not someone I want to talk to normally. I asked for resources, and you said it would "take 10 years" to come close. Yet someone willing to take on such a brain teaser like this is well aware of that task. Let me ask you, what do you do when you're relaxing? I THINK. Its what I love to do, and this task is a background process while I work with my hands. SHOW ME WHERE TO LOOK OH KIND GURU, you want that? yessss master with paper certificate, tell me how to speak maths so I may be blessed by your learned stature. You have forgotten people dont always think in math like you.

You walk into the locker room of an NFL football team at halftime and say, "I know you guys are professional football players and I'm not, but I've been studying football for a while, and though I've never played, I know exactly how to play the perfect game of football. What you've been doing is wrong, and while I can't explain why in terms you'll understand, you're just going to have to take my word on this."

 

Now imagine the head coach of the NFL team looks at you and responds in much the same way the members did to you here. Now imagine you respond with this:

 

You already told me my evidence was hogwash before I presented it, that's not someone I want to talk to normally. I asked for resources, and you said it would "take 10 years" to come close. Yet someone willing to take on such a brain teaser like this is well aware of that task. Let me ask you, what do you do when you're relaxing? I THINK. Its what I love to do, and this task is a background process while I work with my hands. SHOW ME WHERE TO LOOK OH KIND GURU, you want that? yessss master with paper certificate, tell me how to speak maths sports so I may be blessed by your learned stature. You have forgotten people dont always think in math sports terms like you.

Dude, if you had questions, you should have asked questions.

[Lord Antares]

What makes you think I want this for myself? Maybe I'm sharing something of this magnitude to the skeptical public BECAUSE I need help. Hrmm?

 

No you aren't. As I said before, sharing means providing some mathematics or evidence and then asking help. You are basically asking for help in writing science fiction. I AM helping you. Maybe my attitude isn't, but my central points are. If you were to ever pass this as a legitimate theory, you would need to answer my questions. Not because I'm any kind of authority on physics, but because every rational scientist would ask you the same questions.

 

 

You already told me my evidence was hogwash before I presented it, that's not someone I want to talk to normally

 

I said you have no evidence and my reasoning was purely logical. If you had evidence, you would have presented it alongside your OP. Why on earth would you have evidence and then not present it? Therefore, I deduced that you don't have evidence.

 

 

I asked for resources, and you said it would "take 10 years" to come close.

 

I didn't say that, someonne else did, but I don't disagree with that statement. I said that the resources are the whole of physics. Or, not whole exactly, but you would need to profoundly study ALL of the forces involved independently, as well as some cosmology and quantum physics. I stand by this. You were offended by it, I guess. Were you offended because the answer was not what you had hoped for or what?

 

 

Let me ask you, what do you do when you're relaxing? I THINK. Its what I love to do, and this task is a background process while I work with my hands.

 

Yeah, the grand unifying theory is something you think up while shitting on the toilet because you forgot to bring your cellphone. The point is, the issue is MUCH harder than you think it is. You cannot just THINK of a solution. You need to calculate it. You need to model it. You need to review it time and time again.

 

 

You have forgotten people dont always think in math like you.

 

So, you would enlist in the national swimming team and when the reviewer said you don't meet the qualifications, you would say ''WELL I CAN'T SWIM YOU ASSHOLE!''.

That is exactly what you are doing here.

[Mordred]

Lets clarify a bit on what counts as a GUT. First you must determine the coupling constants for each force.

 

Second you must determine what interactions are viable on all particle decays.

 

3rd you must determine at what temperature each coupling constant reaches thermal equilibrium

 

4th you need to model with math all of the above. You must make the correlations to the eightfold wayen, the baryon octet, meson nonet.

 

5th you need to match the predictions for gravity under SO (1.3) Poisson group and the Lorentz group.

 

None of these steps are done in your drawing.

 

 

Here is the basis behind GUT theories

 

http://arxiv.org/pdf/0904.1556.pdf The Algebra of Grand Unified Theories John Baez and John Huerta

http://pdg.lbl.gov/2011/reviews/rpp2011-rev-guts.pdf

http://pdg.lbl.gov/2011/reviews/rpp2011-rev-guts.pdf GRAND UNIFIED THEORIES

 

In essence your drawing is literally meaningless in physics.

[DandelionTheory]

 

 

fine, ill come back after math.

[Mordred]

That would be extremely helpful.

 

You can find many of the formulas you will need here.

 

http://arxiv.org/abs/0810.3328 A Simple Introduction to Particle Physics

 

http://arxiv.org/abs/0908.1395 part 2

 

Part 2 is your relativistic aspects

Edited May 9, 2017 by Mordred

[DandelionTheory]

I'm back B*****s!

The last requirement I was given was math. Oooohhhhhh, daunting.
BUT Einstein already covered this shindig with relative mass. So "faster" particles relative to you have more RELATIVE mass, if you can shape their containment field to cycle back on its self; All y'alls need to do is speed those hoes up breh. What the OP diagram was meant to do was PAINT THE PICTURE for how the containment field would look as a whole. Not Ion Vectors.

 

So if your containment field is open to the atmosphere, you attract more charged ions and anything else into your "closed loop" the more energy you put into it.
AND because gravity is an inverse square law, the small gravity potential shift would attract you relative to your distance to it while cycling oppositely charged ions out the top pole and around the bottom. Therefore MOVING the other ions FARTHER from your relative position, and exploiting the inverse square law ONCE AGAIN. 

SO, THE ONLY CONSTRAINT WOULD BE THE AMOUNT OF POWER REQUIRED TO SPEED UP AND SHAPE ION MOTION.

 

So my assumption is your relative position must be between the 2 field coils, or "standing" on the larger field coil if it is attached to a platform.

Edited October 28, 2017 by DandelionTheory

[DandelionTheory]

What's wrong guys? I thought you wanted proof. Is no one going to debate this? Do I have to make a post in the theory thread...? AM I WRONG!?

[swansont]

Where's the math? If this were addressed by extant physics, it would already be solved.

[DandelionTheory]

Well swansont, I guess ill explain to you why I didn't need math. Because concepts can be explained by relation, that and the fact that I chose to rebel against your rule of engagement. Other people have explained physical and imaginary concepts through math, I visualize them because once everything has been considered and learned conceptually; Its easier to mill over partial and complete theories with a thought. 

It seems daunting for someone to chose to think in this manner, and it is, but as I said before "I think to relax". I would agree math would benefit my knowledge in this way; but alas I'm an A-hole. If a physicist like yourself cannot and will not conceptualize something without math, then what may I ask do you contribute to the ingenuity of humanity? Because a walking calculator is only good for so many years before cell phones arrived. I don't need someone with an elitist complex telling me my speculation is correct, what I DO need is the rest of physics to realize natural flow, and how patterns come together to make a whole, instead of trying to pick the lock with math. Dare I ask it possible for me to describe a physical system you could TRANSLATE INTO MATH IF YOU UNDERSTOOD THE CONCEPT?! no NO, certainly not true. That would be absurd, I'm sure.

[swansont]

Well, then, I guess we're done here.