Shia Islam and Evolution

[Isra'el]

From book "Atheism Delusion" by Ahmed al-Hasan a.s. - Pages 132 and 133:

"The religious texts not only agree with biology and modern science, but they have also mentioned concious life forms, some of which are known today through fossils, meaning the human-like beings like some type of Homo Erectus, Homo Sapiens and the Neanderthal. These texts have stated that human like beings existed before humans, and some of them were rational, concious beings, but less so than humans.

(Muhammad ibn Ali al-Baqir pbuh said: Since the creation of the earth, God Almighty has created seven peoples who are not descendants of Adam. He created them from the soil of the earth and caused them to inhabit it, one after the other, each with his own people. Then, God Almighty created the father of this mankind, and He created his offspring from him." Al Sadooq 1982, 359. Arabic source, translated. Also Al-Ayashi 1991, vol. 2, 238.)

This religious account and others indicate that concious, intelligent life forms have evolved on this earth. In this account, there are seven generations that are concious and intelligent, whose souls are different than Adam, who are not from his children, and who preceded him pbuh on this earth.

(The Prince of the Believers, Ali pbuh said: "God Almighty wanted to create a creation with His own hands after 7,000 years of Jinn and Nisnas existing on earth. He wanted to create Adam... I want to create a creature with My hands, and I want to make from his offspring prophets, messengers, righteous servants, and guided Imams, and make them vicegerents among My creation on My earth, who command them against disobeying Me, warn them of My torment, guide them to My obedience, and guide them to the path toward Me. I shall make them Proofs of Mine upon the others, and I will exterminate the Nisnas on My earth and cleanse it of them." Al-Qumi 1983, vol 1, 36. Arabic source, translated.)

This religious account clearly says that before Adam pbuh there were human-like beings on the earth. It is clear that the seven thousand years are not units of measurement familiar to us today. We can imagine different time units of measurement that are not familiar to us, because they are in different dimensions outside of the universe which we live."

The two Shia hadeeth (narrations) are over 1000 years old, as Imam Ali ibn Abi Talib pbuh lived from 601-661 and Imam Muhammad ibn Ali al-Baqir lived from 677-733.

[Daecon]

Maybe you should try to convince the Christians of this rather than the scientists. The Christians are going to be your first hurdle.

Edited May 9, 2017 by Daecon

[Raider5678]

Maybe you should try to convince the Christians of this rather than the scientists. The Christians are going to be your first hurdle.

Atheists, would be the biggest hurdle.

I'm not the one who gave you the -1 though.

I'll +1 it though so it evens out.

[Moontanman]

From book "Atheism Delusion" by Ahmed al-Hasan a.s. - Pages 132 and 133:

 

"The religious texts not only agree with biology and modern science, but they have also mentioned concious life forms, some of which are known today through fossils, meaning the human-like beings like some type of Homo Erectus, Homo Sapiens and the Neanderthal. These texts have stated that human like beings existed before humans, and some of them were rational, concious beings, but less so than humans.

 

(Muhammad ibn Ali al-Baqir pbuh said: Since the creation of the earth, God Almighty has created seven peoples who are not descendants of Adam. He created them from the soil of the earth and caused them to inhabit it, one after the other, each with his own people. Then, God Almighty created the father of this mankind, and He created his offspring from him." Al Sadooq 1982, 359. Arabic source, translated. Also Al-Ayashi 1991, vol. 2, 238.)

 

This religious account and others indicate that concious, intelligent life forms have evolved on this earth. In this account, there are seven generations that are concious and intelligent, whose souls are different than Adam, who are not from his children, and who preceded him pbuh on this earth.

 

(The Prince of the Believers, Ali pbuh said: "God Almighty wanted to create a creation with His own hands after 7,000 years of Jinn and Nisnas existing on earth. He wanted to create Adam... I want to create a creature with My hands, and I want to make from his offspring prophets, messengers, righteous servants, and guided Imams, and make them vicegerents among My creation on My earth, who command them against disobeying Me, warn them of My torment, guide them to My obedience, and guide them to the path toward Me. I shall make them Proofs of Mine upon the others, and I will exterminate the Nisnas on My earth and cleanse it of them." Al-Qumi 1983, vol 1, 36. Arabic source, translated.)

 

This religious account clearly says that before Adam pbuh there were human-like beings on the earth. It is clear that the seven thousand years are not units of measurement familiar to us today. We can imagine different time units of measurement that are not familiar to us, because they are in different dimensions outside of the universe which we live."

The two Shia hadeeth (narrations) are over 1000 years old, as Imam Ali ibn Abi Talib pbuh lived from 601-661 and Imam Muhammad ibn Ali al-Baqir lived from 677-733.

 

 

Any chance you have any evidence of your god? If not why should I believe a fairy tale written 1400 years ago? Just because you think it might have said some stuff that sounds right to you? Let's look at the flying horse and splitting the moon in half part nor maybe the sun setting in a mud puddle over the horizon... You don't get to cherry pick, the whole tree or nothing...

[John Cuthber]

Scripture has been discussed for most of history.
Can you show any record of this interpretation from before Darwin's time?
If not, it's not a prediction; it's a post-facto justification of an unclear book.

 

The whole thing looks like the Texas sharpshooter effect.

[Country Boy]

What "religious texts" are you talking about? I thought that Muslims accepted only the Koran itself as the word of God and commentaries on the Koran. Does the Koran itself say anything about "seven peoples who are descended from Adam"?

[Code42]

Hey, did you know that Albert Einstein was born on March 14? That's 3.14, the approximation of pi! Albert Einstein was a mathematical genius! It's a prophecy I tell you! The date is significant, and the metaphysics of it are undeniable!

 

See, I can take coincidences from history and use them to make bogus claims too.