StringJunky Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 Is there a general formula for determining the amount of solution A, of concentration x%, required to mix with solution B, of concentration y%, to make a solution C that has a final concentration of z%.? A is the stronger stock solution and B needs raising. As an example, I have a 10% stock solution (Solution A) and I want to raise 150ml of 0.5% solution ( Solution B) to 2% (Solution C).
DrP Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 A simple substitution of that 10% solution will give you dilution for a new constitution to achieve your resolution of a 2% solution which seems to be the target of your convolution. Can you just simply dilute some of the 10% stock straight down to 2%? It will be easier to work out and quite simple. Otherwise - break it into first principles and do the algebra required to change the 0.5% into a 2% solution. I normally write it out in pencil on a piece of paper listing what I have, what I want and what I need to get there. PS - I say that diluting some of the 10 % solution might be more accurate as you will be dealing with whole round numbers without having to round off any decimal places. The dilution from 10 to 2 % will be easy with no recurring decimal places to worry about - depends what you need it for I suppose.
StringJunky Posted June 7, 2017 Author Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) A simple substitution of that 10% solution will give you dilution for a new constitution to achieve your resolution of a 2% solution which seems to be the target of your convolution. Can you just simply dilute some of the 10% stock straight down to 2%? It will be easier to work out and quite simple. Otherwise - break it into first principles and do the algebra required to change the 0.5% into a 2% solution. I normally write it out in pencil on a piece of paper listing what I have, what I want and what I need to get there. PS - I say that diluting some of the 10 % solution might be more accurate as you will be dealing with whole round numbers without having to round off any decimal places. The dilution from 10 to 2 % will be easy with no recurring decimal places to worry about - depends what you need it for I suppose. That was just an example. I'm more interested in the principle. The aim is to use the stock to make corrections to a made up flavour recipe gone wrong and correcting one of the components. Edited June 7, 2017 by StringJunky
KipIngram Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 This is pretty straightforward algebra. If you have a solution of A ml with concentration "a" g/ml and another of B ml of concentration "b" g/ml, then mixing them gives you a total volume of A+B and a total solute mass of Aa+Bb, so your new concentration is (Aa+Bb)/(A+B). If you start with the first and want to add the second to get a final concentration of "c" g/ml, then c = (Aa+Bb)/(A+B) Ac + Bc = Aa + Bb Ac - Aa = Bb - Bc You have both B and b to play with - if you specify B then b = (Ac - Aa - Bc) / B whereas if you specify b then B = (Ac - Aa) / (b - c) 3
StringJunky Posted June 7, 2017 Author Posted June 7, 2017 This is pretty straightforward algebra. If you have a solution of A ml with concentration "a" g/ml and another of B ml of concentration "b" g/ml, then mixing them gives you a total volume of A+B and a total solute mass of Aa+Bb, so your new concentration is (Aa+Bb)/(A+B). If you start with the first and want to add the second to get a final concentration of "c" g/ml, then c = (Aa+Bb)/(A+B) Ac + Bc = Aa + Bb Ac - Aa = Bb - Bc You have both B and b to play with - if you specify B then b = (Ac - Aa - Bc) / B whereas if you specify b then B = (Ac - Aa) / (b - c) Thanks Kip.
KipIngram Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 I guess we could go one better and say we wanted to specify both c and C - then you have C = A + B c = (Aa + Bb) / (A + B) or B = C-A b = (cA + cB - Aa)/B So starting with A of "a" and wanting C of "c", that tells you to add B of "b".
studiot Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 Yes, I'd add +1 to Kip as well. But I'd also add that Kip's agebra works mass concentrations, useful now that we know we are talking about a food recipe. You did post this in Inorganic Chemistry where a Chemist might be forgiven for thinking molar concentrations, and why not organic chemistry for food?
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