Externet Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Hi. After a peaceful follower of the Quran reads (Surah 5:51) (Surah 2:191-193, 216-218, 244) (Surah 3:157-158, 169, 195) (Surah 4:71-74, 84,91) (Surah 5:35) (Surah 8:12, 17, 39, 60-65, 74-75) (Surah 9:5, 14, 20, 24, 29, 36, 38, 39, 41, 73, 111) (Surah 22: 58, 78) (Surah 25:52) (Surah 29:6) (Surah 47:4) (Surah 61:4, 11) (Surah 66:9) ----> Disobeying these above, by being peaceful towards other religions means going against the Quran ?
dimreepr Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 I haven't read all of those passages, but your conclusion seems wrong to me, I think it's essentially saying 'if they're trying to kill you it's ok to kill them, otherwise leave them in peace'. Don't forget the time it was written was riddled with war.
bimbo36 Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 I don't know one single person that follows all these verse by verse .
Externet Posted August 28, 2017 Author Posted August 28, 2017 5 hours ago, dimreepr said: ...your conclusion seems wrong to me, I think it's essentially saying 'if they're trying to kill you it's ok to kill them, otherwise leave them in peace'. That is not the point. Not concluding anything but asking. Here is one : ----> http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=5&verse=51 If a Quran follower is prevented by the Quran from being peaceful and friendly towards other religions, is the peaceful follower acting against the Quran ?. Yes, No, or no answer.
Area54 Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 But Dimreepr seems to be saying that the Quran does not prevent a follower from being peaceful and friendly towards other religions. Therefore, if Deemreepr is correct, your question is meaningless.
dimreepr Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, Externet said: That is not the point. Not concluding anything but asking. Here is one : ----> http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=5&verse=51 If a Quran follower is prevented by the Quran from being peaceful and friendly towards other religions, is the peaceful follower acting against the Quran ?. Yes, No, or no answer. It's very much the point, it's all about interpretation (how many variations of the same text in that link) and understanding the culture of the writers. Imagine it was written in WWII, by either side, collaboration with the enemy would be frowned upon but that doesn't mean I can't have German friends now. 1
Tabeer Hussain Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 On 8/28/2017 at 8:48 AM, Externet said: Hi. After a peaceful follower of the Quran reads (Surah 5:51) (Surah 2:191-193, 216-218, 244) (Surah 3:157-158, 169, 195) (Surah 4:71-74, 84,91) (Surah 5:35) (Surah 8:12, 17, 39, 60-65, 74-75) (Surah 9:5, 14, 20, 24, 29, 36, 38, 39, 41, 73, 111) (Surah 22: 58, 78) (Surah 25:52) (Surah 29:6) (Surah 47:4) (Surah 61:4, 11) (Surah 66:9) ----> Disobeying these above, by being peaceful towards other religions means going against the Quran ? Since, i have read all those i presume in a post (Atheist Republic).... Look , these verses relate to other verses preceeding and succeeding so concluding the meaning from these alone would be unjust.. ... Besides verses we also have hadiths so i would recommend there confirmation from hadiths as well... Though i might lack at some part... Thank you 1
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