ritastrakosha Posted September 9, 2017 Author Posted September 9, 2017 1 minute ago, swansont said: ! Moderator Note I have warned you once already. You need to be backing up your claims. Peer-reviewed literature is preferred. 8 minutes ago, iNow said: Sex can also be used to decrease conflict and increase group cohesion, much like we see in bonobos. It's silly to assume sex is only for reproduction. I, for one, enjoy it very much and sometimes even more when it doesn't result in any new children. Sex is not only for reproduction, but when all the sex one does is not capable of reproduction (like in exclusive homosexuality) that brings dysfunction.
DrP Posted September 9, 2017 Posted September 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, ritastrakosha said: Sex is not only for reproduction, but when all the sex one does is not capable of reproduction (like in exclusive homosexuality) that brings dysfunction. would you say the same about using a condom?
ritastrakosha Posted September 9, 2017 Author Posted September 9, 2017 14 minutes ago, Area54 said: You overlook the means by which (successful) reproduction is achieved by humans. Since humans are a social species individuals who are not capable of, or interested in reproduction can assist directly or indirectly in raising children, help provide the nutrition required or even, (if we adopt for a moment a stereotypical view of male homosexuals) provide a pleasing ambience for the environment in which they excrete. Even if I were to concede, for sake of argument, that it is a dysfunction why would you wish to correct it if the individual "suffering" from it is quite happy with their condition? Ego-dystonic homosexuals ask for correction. They would be offered therapy. There are also political implications for it being accepted as a dysfunction. 1 minute ago, DrP said: would you say the same about using a condom? If someone always uses that condom so as to never have children and he is stressed by this behavior (like ego-dystonic homosexuals), that could be considered disordered behavior (otherwise not specified .... in DSM5). Therapy could be offered to him. If he is not stressed by the behavior, therapy is not offered. Similarly to some paraphilias.
MigL Posted September 9, 2017 Posted September 9, 2017 Essentially, the approach is to change a person's 'preference' or mindset. And an established method of mind control/brainwashing IS exposure to extreme stress ( even torture ). So yes, the method could work. Whether it is ethical to consider, offer it as treatment, or even to deny it to those who want it, is a different topic. ( and probably a minefield )
Area54 Posted September 9, 2017 Posted September 9, 2017 21 minutes ago, ritastrakosha said: There are also political implications for it being accepted as a dysfunction. There certainly are. It is scarecly half a century since homosexual behaviour was made legal in the UK. Perceiving it as a dysfunction increases the probability that it will come to be perceived, again, as a crime and prevent acceptance in those countries where its practice is still illegal.
swansont Posted September 9, 2017 Posted September 9, 2017 56 minutes ago, ritastrakosha said: Sex is not only for reproduction, but when all the sex one does is not capable of reproduction (like in exclusive homosexuality) that brings dysfunction. ! Moderator Note And with that unsupported claim, we're done. Don't bring this topic, or any soapboxing, up again
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