Worth of the sun?

[Encryptor]

The monetary value of the sun preferably in pounds (£) also not counting the value lost in all of these materials if we had such high amounts of them. I have done a bit of this myself, see if you can improve or expand on anything or point out some mistakes.  Let's get it as accurate as we can   

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[Area54]

Worth of the sun? Invaluable.

[Silvestru]

All other things aside, who would you buy it from?

After you would buy it, you could not do anything about it anyway. You can just think now that you own the sun if you want and it would have no impact on any of our lives unless you also invest in a Dyson Shell. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere

[J.C.MacSwell]

12 hours ago, Silvestru said:

All other things aside, who would you buy it from?

After you would buy it, you could not do anything about it anyway. You can just think now that you own the sun if you want and it would have no impact on any of our lives unless you also invest in a Dyson Shell. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere

Well...me.

Bidding starts at 35 cents. Don't worry about what you might or might not be able to do with it...this is your chance to own the vast majority of the mass of the Solar System.

[Silvestru]

Someone beat you to it J.C.MacSwell.

http://www.weownthesun.com/  (amazing actually)

"In tough economic times, we realize that good investments can be hard to find. Real estate has consistently been a very satisfying way to realize long term investment gains.

We are prepared to offer you the finest in real estate opportunities located in sunny... um.. on the sun. That's correct, we have laid claim to the sun and are now offering property on a first come first serve basis."

[iNow]

That's a hot deal, magnetic even. It eclipses most others, massively. I'm gravitationally drawn to it. It's revolutionary, a well of prominence. What a fusion of ideas!

[Raider5678]

14 hours ago, J.C.MacSwell said:

Well...me.

Bidding starts at 35 cents. Don't worry about what you might or might not be able to do with it...this is your chance to own the vast majority of the mass of the Solar System.

I bid 36 cents.

This deal is burning hot. It's just radiating energy.

[DrP]

$1.85!

[J.C.MacSwell]

12 hours ago, Silvestru said:

Someone beat you to it J.C.MacSwell.

http://www.weownthesun.com/  (amazing actually)

"In tough economic times, we realize that good investments can be hard to find. Real estate has consistently been a very satisfying way to realize long term investment gains.

We are prepared to offer you the finest in real estate opportunities located in sunny... um.. on the sun. That's correct, we have laid claim to the sun and are now offering property on a first come first serve basis."

Ouch! I thought I had something there...was just beaming. Now I feel like I've been punched in the solar plexus.

Edited September 13, 2017 by J.C.MacSwell

[DeoxyRiboRobert]

Well... 

In terms of energy:

The sun's energy output is approximately 3.8x10²⁶ joules per second and the sun plans on lasting approximately 5 billion years before turning into a red giant, so let's ignore everything that will kill the earth and pretend that capitalism in the form of the US Dollar will continue to live on throughout the Galaxy outside of our planet's death. 

There're 1.57x10¹⁷ Seconds in a year, since there're 4 years for every leap year we'll have to add ( (5x10⁹ /4)  x 86400 ) = 1.08x10¹⁴ 

Therefore 1.50108x10¹⁷ x 3.8x10²⁶ = 5.704104x10⁴³ in pure Joules.

Now if we were somehow physically capable of obtaining this energy then it'd simply be a case of multiplying the joules by the current rate of Kilo-watt-hours. Although... A Nuclear reactor's turbines are only approximately 38-44% efficient. This means that if we were to somehow develop turbines capable of being placed around the sun, and the water to be evaporated then...

At worst:( 5.704104x10⁴³ x 12) x 0.38 = 2.601071424x10⁴⁴ $

At best: ( 5.704104x10⁴³ x 12) x 0.44 = 3.01166912x10⁴⁴ $

(I'm a biologist not a mathematician nor physicist please don't hurt me because of these wildly hypothetical calculations)

Edited September 14, 2017 by DeoxyRiboRobert

[swansont]

2 hours ago, DeoxyRiboRobert said:

There're 1.57x10¹⁷ Seconds in a year, since there're 4 years for every leap year we'll have to add ( (5x10⁹ /4)  x 86400 ) = 1.08x10¹⁴ 

3.15 x 10^7 seconds per year

Not sure how you added to your number and got a result 3 orders of magnitude smaller.

[DeoxyRiboRobert]

7 hours ago, swansont said:

3.15 x 10^7 seconds per year

Not sure how you added to your number and got a result 3 orders of magnitude smaller.

Turns out I suck at both English and Mathematics.

Here's what I wanted to say: 

There're 1.57x10¹⁷ Seconds in a year, since there're 4 years for every leap year we'll have to add 1.08x10¹⁴  ( (5x10⁹ /4)  x 86400 ), therefore the answer is 1.57108x10^17

Edited September 15, 2017 by DeoxyRiboRobert

[bimbo36]

I would like to buy that sun , not sure where to put it though . What if i start revolving around it then ? lol

[DeoxyRiboRobert]

9 hours ago, swansont said:

3.15 x 10^7 seconds per year

Not sure how you added to your number and got a result 3 orders of magnitude smaller.

I'll redo all these calculations later with the correct values, I genuinely suck at maths. 

31536000 seconds per year

(60x60 = 3600, 3600x24 = 86400)

(86400 x 365 = 31536000)

[swansont]

2 hours ago, DeoxyRiboRobert said:

Turns out I suck at both English and Mathematics.

Here's what I wanted to say: 

There're 1.57x10¹⁷ Seconds in a year, since there're 4 years for every leap year we'll have to add 1.08x10¹⁴  ( (5x10⁹ /4)  x 86400 ), therefore the answer is 1.57108x10^17

Your math still makes no sense (what is 5 x 10^9 supposed to represent?).

86400 seconds per day x 0.25 = 21,600

31557600 seconds per year, on average

[EdEarl]

On 9/11/2017 at 8:50 AM, Area54 said:

Worth of the sun? Invaluable.

Area54's answer is correct. However, the sun generates 3.8 x 10²⁶ joules/s. In an hour it generates 3.8 x 10²³ kilowatt hours. At $0.05 per kilowatt-hour, that's $1.9 x 10²² per hour.

Sorry, you cannot afford it. The good news, no one else can either.

[Encryptor]

Well this post went supernova  anyway seems the link got removed so I'll copy and paste everything from the notepad to here also feel free to correct anything you see    :

Value of the sun:

hydrogen:

Using bulk buy with pre-tax directly from a hydrogen plant will be from $0.7-$4.1 per kilogram so it will be £0.56-
£3.30 per Kg of hydrogen.

mass of sun: 1.989 × 10^30 kg 
Composition of hydrogen (by mass): 71%

1.989 × 10^30 kg x 0.71 =  1.41219 x 10^30 kg
answer*0.56= 7.908264 x 10^29 pounds =bottom limit
answer*3.30= 4.660227 x 10^30 pounds =upper limit

£7.91x10^29-£4.66x10^30 for hydrogen

Helium:
Bulk buy of pure helium with limited containers is ~$52 per Kg so it will be £41.6 per Kg

mass of sun: 1.989 × 10^30 kg
Composition of Helium (by mass): 27.1%

1.989 × 10^30 kg x 0.271 = 5.39019x10^29 Kg
answer*41.6= 2.24231904 x 10^31 pounds

£2.24x10^31 for Helium

Oxygen:
Bulk buy of pure oxygen gas from plants is about $3 per Kg so it will be £2.4 per Kg

mass of sun: 1.989 × 10^30 kg
Composition of Oxygen (by mass): 0.97%

1.989 × 10^30 kg x 0.0097 = 1.92933 x 10^28Kg
answer*2.4= 4.630392 x 10^28 pounds

£4.63x10^28 for Oxygen

Carbon:
Bulk buy of pure solid carbon (basic form no diamonds or other carbon structures)
is about $24 per Kg so it will be £19.2 per Kg

mass of sun: 1.989 × 10^30 kg
Composition of Carbon (by mass): 0.4%

1.989 × 10^30 kg x 0.004 = 7.956 x 10^27Kg
answer*19.2= 1.527552x10^29 pounds

£1.53x10^29 for Carbon

Iron:
Bulk buy of PURE solid Iron is about $72 per Kg so it will be £57.6 per Kg

mass of sun: 1.989 × 10^30 kg
Composition of Oxygen (by mass): 0.14%

1.989 × 10^30 kg x 0.0014 = 2.7846 x 10^27Kg
answer*57.6= 1.6039296 x 10^29 pounds

£1.60x10^29 for Iron

Contains traces of other (60+) elements which are below 0.1% composition.

Total cost for the sun will be between
£2.36x10^31-£2.74x10^31
or
highest price written out £27,400,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 or 27.4 nonillion pounds

On 15/09/2017 at 11:22 AM, EdEarl said:

Area54's answer is correct. However, the sun generates 3.8 x 10²⁶ joules/s. In an hour it generates 3.8 x 10²³ kilowatt hours. At $0.05 per kilowatt-hour, that's $1.9 x 10²² per hour.

Sorry, you cannot afford it. The good news, no one else can either.

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