tar Posted November 1, 2017 Author Share Posted November 1, 2017 2 hours ago, swansont said: "Who got the money?" is not Y/N. "What does it stand for?"(regarding CFIUS) is not Y/N. "How many people sit on that committee?" is not Y/N. "How many have to approve a deal like this?" is not Y/N. "How many approved this deal?" is not Y/N. "Does Hillary Clinton sit on the board?" needs to be qualified? "Who is the person who donated to H.C?" is not Y/N. "Did he own any assets in Uranium One at the time HC was Sec of State?" needs to be qualified? (She didn't know the answer, and the host explained the answer anyway) So your "leading questions" that were Y/N boils down to "Does Hillary Clinton sit on the board?" Yeah, lots of spin there. So much spin. Go ahead and spin "What does CFIUS stand for?", "How many people sit on that committee?" "How many have to approve a deal like this?", or "How many approved this deal?" What are the right-spun answers? Because (according to you) the answers are "Committee on Foreign Investment in the US", "Nine", "Nine", and "Nine" are the ones you get by putting left-spin on them. Excuse me? So you're only here for the trolling? Then show that these are facts. The Secretary of State (or any other member of CFIUS) cannot veto a transaction. Only the president can do that. All they can do is make a recommendation. "Only the President has the authority to suspend or prohibit a covered transaction" (top of 74569)https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/international/foreign-investment/Documents/CFIUSGuidance.pdf But iNow already explained this, as well as the fact that the uranium isn't leaving the country. You're just ignoring this. More innuendo, and absence of facts. (BTW, GW bush makes plenty of money in speaking fees, too. What do his customers get for their money?) all those "facts" are not wrong, but the case for Hilary not being involved is dashed by the missing fact that I posted before “Hillary’s opposition [to the Uranium One deal] would have been enough under CFIUS rules to have the decision on the transaction kicked up to the president. That never happened,” Schweizer wrote in “Clinton Cash.” This keeps all the facts true, except for the most important one. Could Hilary have stopped it? The above quote makes it clear that Hilary's opposition would have been enough to kick the decision up to the President. -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNow Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Maybe she agreed with the other 9 people who approved the deal. This. Is. Nothing. But. A. STUPID. Distraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ten oz Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 3 hours ago, tar said: all those "facts" are not wrong, but the case for Hilary not being involved is dashed by the missing fact that I posted before “Hillary’s opposition [to the Uranium One deal] would have been enough under CFIUS rules to have the decision on the transaction kicked up to the president. That never happened,” Schweizer wrote in “Clinton Cash.” This keeps all the facts true, except for the most important one. Could Hilary have stopped it? The above quote makes it clear that Hilary's opposition would have been enough to kick the decision up to the President. The Senate vote overwhelmingly (98-2) to sanction Russia for their interference in our election and Trump is dragging his feet on enacting those sanctions. Your sense of what does or doesn't matter with regards to Russia seems to have an aggressively partisan tilt. The Uranium deal was done on the up and up. It had multi agency review and transparency. You are conflating criminal behavior with policy you disagree with. The two are not the same. No one here is arguig that your should like the Uranium deal. Rather we are pointing out to your that there was nothing illegal, unethical, unpatriotic, or otherwise wrong with the Uranium deal. What that said what is your main point about it other than wishing it weren't so? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 5 hours ago, tar said: all those "facts" are not wrong, but the case for Hilary not being involved is dashed by the missing fact that I posted before “Hillary’s opposition [to the Uranium One deal] would have been enough under CFIUS rules to have the decision on the transaction kicked up to the president. That never happened,” Schweizer wrote in “Clinton Cash.” This keeps all the facts true, except for the most important one. Could Hilary have stopped it? The above quote makes it clear that Hilary's opposition would have been enough to kick the decision up to the President. All you're missing here is 1) why she is being singled out, since anyone could have raised an objection — but no, this is all on Clinton and 2) any kind of fact-based argument as to why one should object. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cuthber Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 On 10/31/2017 at 5:24 PM, tar said: Russians were getting control of a Canadian country As far as I understand it, there's only one Canadian country; it's called Canada, and the Russians don't have control over it. Does the rest of the thread get better, or should I stop reading here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 On 10/31/2017 at 4:05 PM, swansont said: You can also watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP04_TVbW8k For those who prefer it, you can watch Fox news, and get the same information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNow Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Debunking the Uranium One paranoid right-wing fever dream in one simple chart: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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