New Synthetic Language For Easy Communication "iffuty Language"

[iffuty]

Hello. We would like to present you our comic project, which has quite a serious background. It refers to the field of linguistics, an area in which innovation is usually nonsense. Nevertheless, the invention of new languages, still belongs to the field of innovation.

Comrade and I created a new artificial language (iffuty.ga) called IFFUTY LANGUAGE (the word "iffits" means "stone", from the popular saying in the southern countries similar to the Russian "just like an egg": "just like a stone").

The language is based on a slightly modified Basic English dictionary. There is no punctuation in the language (except the point), there is only one form of the word that is unchangeable in the sentence (contextual perception), the sentences are constructed according to the same scheme. Type of proposal (question, exclamation, command), as well as expressed emotion (19 types of emotions).

A special feature of the language is the dictionary, in which all words consisted of an equal number of letters and syllables. For their formation, as well as the general logic of the language, statistical algorithms were used. The language itself is designed taking into account:

1. The ease of the pronunciation of words, especially cultures far from the European mainland. The fact is that the words are used only hissing sounds. Purely physiologically because of the structure of the human larynx, they are easier to pronounce than ringing. That is, for example, for the tribes of Africa, it is easier to pronounce them than many English words.

2. The fixed value of the number of letters. The words are matched (as far as possible) so that the ability to remember information.

 

3. The general principles of the logic of constructive sentences are designed on the basis of the corresponding primitive natural languages.

 

4. Words are chosen in such a way that some phrases are consonant with funny expressions in English and other languages. This is done to make the psychological effect of popularizing the language.

 

On the whole, the finished work has turned out, which we distribute under the license CC BY-NC-SA 4.0, so that anyone can modify and take the basis of this work, supplement and edit. For commercial purposes, it is not to use it. On the site you can download the training course in EN or RU languages.

 

The purpose of creating a language is to enable representatives of underdeveloped cultures (native tribes) to speak with the definition of English-speaking countries, and in the future also Russian-speaking.

 

We are waiting for adequate comments. We invite you to participate ...

 

P.S .: we are not linguists - but mathematicians, so do not strictly for the terminology and design ... And also possible errors (.We will be glad to edit)).

iffuty_en.txt

iffuty_ru.txt

[Strange]

You might get better response from a a conlang forum such as: https://conlang.org/communities/

A couple of points:

You haven't said anything about word order (which must be fixed). It looks like it is SOV (like Japanese). Is that right?

You don't have a means for creating new words. As the words are all just random morphemes, there seems no way of producing new words. 

55 minutes ago, iffuty said:

P.S .: we are not linguists

Obviously.

[iffuty]

Many thanks for the link. 

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You haven't said anything about word order (which must be fixed). It looks like it is SOV (like Japanese). Is that right?

Do you have talking  a sentence structure? In Japanese it seems like this: (Subject or topic of the sentence) + time + place + indirect addition + object + action verb. In IFIPITS, the structure is different, but the principle is similar. If we are talking about the order of words in the subject of the sentence, then they go in order as in many European languages, that is, subject and predicate may change. But usually as we say, for example, in English. Thanks for the remark, we will definitely write about it in the new version of the language specification.

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You don't have a means for creating new words. As the words are all just random morphemes, there seems no way of producing new words. 

Yes, you are absolutely right. So far there is only a set of letters and the rule of their alternation. But our language is quite plain and we made a bet on creating 
dictionary morphemes.

[John Cuthber]

You need to distinguish "man bites dog" from "dog bites man"  and "man is bitten by dog".

[Strange]

On 10/11/2017 at 10:25 AM, iffuty said:

The fact is that the words are used only hissing sounds. Purely physiologically because of the structure of the human larynx, they are easier to pronounce than ringing.

The “difficulty” of different sounds depends only on the phonemes present in the speaker’s language. No sounds are inherently more difficult than others. 

Related to that, you have words with consonant clusters. These are problematic for speakers of many languages. 

Also, your document says the words are pronounced “as in English”. Given the loose relationship between spelling and pronunciation in English, and the English excessive number of vowels (12 or more), that is really unhelpful. For example, what is the value of ‘y’; is it the same as ‘i’ or a different vowel sound? Or does it indicate palatalisation? Or is it context dependent?

You would be better off sticking to the 5 basic vowels as in Italian or Japanese. Generally, Japanese would be a better phonetic model with its simple syllable structure. Although you might want to avoid geminate consonants.

And, if the word order is SVO as you say, then some of your examples seem to be wrong. 

[iffuty]

I will continue the topic after a long (two years) break. The work was continued and a more perfect language was created on the basis of the previous one, which was called "Freelhara".

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This synthesized language, which is based on put a slightly modified basic dictionary English. It contains about 840 words, sufficient for communication on simple household level. The Freelhara is completely absent punctuation ( except point) due to the fact that the language mainly designed for speech application. In there is only one form of the word, immutable in a sentence (contextual perception), all sentences are built on to the same scheme. This uses special articles to indicate the time, type of sentence ( question, exclamation, command), as well as the emotion expressed (19 types of emotions).

The main difference from the previous work is the creation of a pronunciation of some phonemes other than English. Thus, this option pidgin becomes full conversational😊

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A feature of the Freelhara language, is a dictionary in which all words consist of minimum possible number of letters (only three letter) and one syllable! Do it this language is unique and one of the most concise to record information, but at the same time transcription of phonemes of this language makes speech full-format, melodic and simple to use pronunciation by representatives of many languages groups'.

The main goal of creating such a language: to enable representatives of different language groups, including underdeveloped cultures (indigenous tribes) to be reasonably explained in everyday life (for example, when trading or exchanging) among themselves, while not spending a lot of time learning complex international languages.

Forgot to attach files with a training course...

freelhara_en.txt

freelhara_ru.txt

[Strange]

58 minutes ago, iffuty said:

I will continue the topic after a long (two years) break.

It is a shame you didn’t spend some of that time learning a bit about how languages actually work, instead of wasting your time in this. 

[iffuty]

23 hours ago, Strange said:

It is a shame you didn’t spend some of that time learning a bit about how languages actually work, instead of wasting your time in this. 

I am in the process of studying this issue... You see, this language is more a demonstration of the use of statistics and mathematics for constructing languages as a means of transmitting information. Everyone perfectly understands (including me) that this is not a full-fledged language. And given that the approach to its creation was purely mathematical, the result seems strange in terms of linguistics.

[michel123456]

IMHO the mathematical approach would be more interesting if the target was to interact with animals (like chimpanzees or dolphins).

[Strange]

On 11/14/2019 at 9:12 AM, iffuty said:

I am in the process of studying this issue...

Some good introductory linguistics books listed here, including some aimed at conlangers: https://allthingslinguistic.com/post/133756588946/a-very-long-list-of-pop-linguistics-books-and

As you are apparently starting from complete ignorance of linguistics, you should find some useful stuff there.

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 You see, this language is more a demonstration of the use of statistics and mathematics for constructing languages as a means of transmitting information. Everyone perfectly understands (including me) that this is not a full-fledged language. And given that the approach to its creation was purely mathematical, the result seems strange in terms of linguistics.

In other words, completely divorced from reality.

It is like saying that you have come up with a better automobile engine based on purely mathematical principles while not knowing how to drive, how an engine woks, what gasoline is, how cars are built or used, or even what they look like.

[iffuty]

On 11/14/2019 at 12:48 PM, michel123456 said:

IMHO the mathematical approach would be more interesting if the target was to interact with animals (like chimpanzees or dolphins).

Perhaps, but I am very far from zoo-linguistics.

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Some good introductory linguistics books listed here, including some aimed at conlangers: https://allthingslinguistic.com/post/133756588946/a-very-long-list-of-pop-linguistics-books-and

As you are apparently starting from complete ignorance of linguistics, you should find some useful stuff there.

 

Thank you for the link.

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In other words, completely divorced from reality.

It is like saying that you have come up with a better automobile engine based on purely mathematical principles while not knowing how to drive, how an engine woks, what gasoline is, how cars are built or used, or even what they look like.

 

I will not argue with your criticism, but I try to learn and develop the project in the right direction. This language is only testing / running mathematical algorithms. But the work continues. And this option can come in handy, for example, when creating fantastic realities for pc games. Why not speak fictional aliens in this language))