Vmedvil Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SuperPolymath said: This is still finite toric geometry. There will always be a variant of you don't apply infinite fractal geometry. There aren't enough dimensions for that eventually it will cap out when all variables are defined it won't be SU(n) it will be less than that. Edited November 25, 2017 by Vmedvil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, Vmedvil said: There aren't enough dimensions for that eventually it will cap out when all variables are defined it won't be SU(n) it will be less than that. that's one way to describe it, it may generate pretty pictures but you won't be able to calculate the path integral of a photon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperPolymath Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, Vmedvil said: There aren't enough dimensions for that eventually it will cap out when all variables are defined it won't be SU(n) it will be less than that. No, remember what I was saying about what makes such things undefined? You even said it would take me 500,000,000 years because of how undefinable the asymptote of the infinite contour is as you approach the 0 space-time center of the heterotic superstring But those last three links provide some background on how to define those variables invariantly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vmedvil Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, SuperPolymath said: No, remember what I was saying about what makes such things undefined? You even said it would take me 500,000,000 years because of how undefinable the asymptote of the infinite contour is as you approach the 0 space-time center of the heterotic superstring Yes, but humans are not that smart in math, this is something a Hypercore would have to do and I am not saying Binary Hyper-threading either like I said what can stack a quantum computer this equation. Edited November 25, 2017 by Vmedvil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperPolymath Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 11 minutes ago, Vmedvil said: Yes, but humans are not that smart in math, this is something a Hypercore would have to do and I am not saying Binary Hyper-threading either like I said what can stack a quantum computer this equation. Not if you only do it for like the space a meter. You have you lasers in a Cern lab, you predict the way the particles will interact, & you design a small qe gate just enough for a vast number of simple transmissions for one complex calculation. That qe gate could be one of many doing faster calculations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vmedvil Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SuperPolymath said: Not if you only do it for like the space a meter. You have you lasers in a Cern lab, you predict the way the particles will interact, & you design a small qe gate just enough for a vast number of simple transmissions for one complex calculation. That qe gate could be one of many doing faster calculations. Something like that which in Quantum Machinery is called a String Computer. Edited November 25, 2017 by Vmedvil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) here is an example the image on the left is a global vector field, the right is a local vector field. You want a set of equations to get from image left to image right. This is just U(1) image from Quantum Field theory Demystified, page number on image Edited November 25, 2017 by Mordred 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vmedvil Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 Just now, Mordred said: here is an example the image on the left is a global vector field, the right is a local vector field. You want a set of equations to get from image left to image right. This is just U(1) thats why I keep adding them as I defined or someone else does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) You want to be able to plot every vector at every coordinate when you add [math]g_{\mu\nu}=\eta_{\mu\nu}+h_{\mu\nu}[/math] that is where group symmetry comes into play every coordinate must be plotted under transformation. The number of coordinates increases the complexity. Edited November 25, 2017 by Mordred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vmedvil Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Mordred said: You want to be able to plot every vector at every coordinate when you add Gμν+ημν+hμν that is where group symmetry comes into play every coordinate must be plotted under transformation. The number of coordinates increases the complexity. Yes, which is why ∇Eb(x,y,z,t,ω,M,I,ρ,m) = ∇(1/((1-(((2MbG / Rs) - (Is(ks2 + mk2)/2Mb) + (((8πG/3)((g/(2π)3)∫(p2 + mp2)1/2(1/e((E - μ)/T)±1)d3p) - (ksC2/Rs2) + (Λ/3))1/2(Δx/3.08567758128*1019)))2/C2))1/2))MbC2 says ∑∑∑∑∑∑∑∑∑∇ Edited November 25, 2017 by Vmedvil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 great I see several matrixes in the above can you identify which terms are actually matrixes in the above? or better yet can be simplified by using matrixes to organize? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vmedvil Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, Mordred said: great I see several matrixes in the above can you identify which terms are actually matrixes in the above? or better yet can be simplified by using matrixes to organize? You have to reverse how I constructed to see the different parts, the first seven are SR/GR, First four are four current SR Edited November 25, 2017 by Vmedvil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) I can already deconstruct it, I am asking you to start with the [math]\frac{8\pi G}{3}[/math] start with a scalar field then do a vector field Edited November 25, 2017 by Mordred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vmedvil Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Mordred said: I can already deconstruct it, I am asking you to start with the [math]\frac{8\pi G}{3}[/math] start with a scalar field then do a vector field i(That) + j(That) + k(That) - Ct(That) past that you gotta know the signs but ..... (-/+).....n Edited November 25, 2017 by Vmedvil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) I know how those unit vectors work, no they don't work the way you think they do ie you need the Jacobian matrix to use them correctly ps I posted this a few days ago ie the Kronecher delta and Levi-Cevita connections section I posted earlier this thread. Edited November 25, 2017 by Mordred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vmedvil Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 13 minutes ago, Mordred said: I know how those unit vectors work, no they don't work the way you think they do ie you need the Jacobian matrix to use them correctly ps I posted this a few days ago ie the Kronecher delta and Levi-Cevita connections section I posted earlier this thread. Okay, I got that but I really don't want to construct one but once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) http://www.hri.res.in/~debsadhukhan/HRI web/pdf/Units & Vectors . the above is part of it, here go through this then think back to Dubbelsix mentioning of dimensionality. which he was quite correct to do so Those three unit vectors only ever have 1 value (hint unity) https://www.khanacademy.org/math/precalculus/vectors-precalc/unit-vectors/v/intro-unit-vector-notation for those that don't like reading math lol Edited November 25, 2017 by Mordred 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vmedvil Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 42 minutes ago, Mordred said: http://www.hri.res.in/~debsadhukhan/HRI web/pdf/Units & Vectors . the above is part of it, here go through this then think back to Dubbelsix mentioning of dimensionality. which he was quite correct to do so Those three unit vectors only ever have 1 value (hint unity) and why doesn't = R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) [math]\mathbb{R}[/math] is the set of real numbers, a unit vector only ever has a single value of 1. its not a set. To answer the next possible question the reason we square the unit vectors in probability density functions is to take a negative number and make it positive as probabilities are always positive integers. unfortunately there is no agreed upon symbol for the set of imaginary numbers so many use [math]i\mathbb{R}[/math] or just [math]\mathbb{I}[/math] Edited November 26, 2017 by Mordred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 (edited) Here i,j,k Vector Calculus by Michael Corral note distribution of this is under the GNU free documentation license which gives permission to copy paste portions one has to be careful on copyright notices lol Anyways here you go Schwartzchild with the QFT treatments... including the Einstein-Rosen bridge. https://arxiv.org/pdf/1708.00748.pdf should be enough that if you study it properly should take a month to understand just how each equation is derived. (to properly understand it) when your not that familiar with QFT or vector calculus... Edited November 26, 2017 by Mordred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vmedvil Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, Mordred said: Here i,j,k Vector Calculus by Michael Corral note distribution of this is under the GNU free documentation license which gives permission to copy paste portions one has to be careful on copyright notices lol Anyways here you go Schwartzchild with the QFT treatments... including the Einstein-Rosen bridge. https://arxiv.org/pdf/1708.00748.pdf should be enough that if you study it properly should take a month to understand just how each equation is derived. (to properly understand it) when your not that familiar with QFT or vector calculus... Yes, where the Langrangians agree with the coordinates used upon density in four current like I had thought you were gonna do which is why I took the equation then stuck matter density for that rather than moment of inertia being for that in L form when the Hubble's Constant was inserted. ∇Eb(x,y,z,t,ω,M,I,ρ,m) = ∇(1/((1-(((2MbG / Rs) - (Isωs(ks2 + mk2)(1/2)/2Mb) + (((8πG/3)((g/(2π)3)∫(p2 + mp2)(1/2)(1/e((E - μ)/T)±1)d3p) - (ksC2/Rs2) + (Λ/3))1/2(ΔKiloparsec)))2/C2))1/2))MbC2 Where ρ(x,y,z,t) = r(x,y,z,t), I assume the function itself is φ being d3p Edited November 26, 2017 by Vmedvil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vmedvil Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Vmedvil said: Yes, where the Langrangians agree with the coordinates used upon density in four current like I had thought you were gonna do which is why I took the equation then stuck matter density for that rather than moment of inertia being for that in L form when the Hubble's Constant was inserted. ∇Eb(x,y,z,t,ω,M,I,ρ,m) = ∇(1/((1-(((2MbG / Rs) - (Isωs(ks2 + mk2)(1/2)/2Mb) + (((8πG/3)((g/(2π)3)∫(p2 + mp2)(1/2)(1/e((E - μ)/T)±1)d3p) - (ksC2/Rs2) + (Λ/3))1/2(ΔKiloparsec)))2/C2))1/2))MbC2 Where ρ(x,y,z,t) = r(x,y,z,t), I assume the function itself is φ being d3p So, I am missing a coordinate ∇Eb(x,y,z,t,ω,M,I, φ,ρ,m) = ∇(1/((1-(((2MbG / Rs) - (Isωs(ks2 + mk2)(1/2)/2Mb) + (((8πG/3)((g/(2π)3)∫(p2 + mp2)(1/2)(1/e((E - μ)/T)±1)d3p) - (ksC2/Rs2) + (Λ/3))1/2(ΔKiloparsec)))2/C2))1/2))MbC2 Then Λ = Edited November 26, 2017 by Vmedvil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Your missing more than that. Are you familiar with performing dinensional analysis via replacing each term with the SI unit to test that the lefthand side does equal the RHS of the equal sign? https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://web.mit.edu/2.25/www/pdf/DA_unified.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwitheutlNzXAhUB8mMKHZnJBjgQFggdMAA&usg=AOvVaw3hTYBubBOwEQX7596gEKFR Test the viability of your equation via the procedure in that link. Make sure your LHS equals the RHS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vmedvil Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Vmedvil said: So, I am missing a coordinate ∇Eb(x,y,z,t,ω,M,I, φ,ρ,m) = ∇(1/((1-(((2MbG / Rs) - (Isωs(ks2 + mk2)(1/2)/2Mb) + (((8πG/3)((g/(2π)3)∫(p2 + mp2)(1/2)(1/e((E - μ)/T)±1)d3p) - (ksC2/Rs2) + (Λ/3))1/2(ΔKiloparsec)))2/C2))1/2))MbC2 Then Λ = Ya, there is a problem with using that for the Cosmo k and p do not equal zero that would be devoid of matter, but it does = k ∇Eb(x,y,z,t,ω,M,I, φ,ρ,m) = ∇(1/((1-(((2MbG / Rs) - (Isωs(ks2 + mk2)(1/2)/2Mb) + (((8πG/3)((g/(2π)3)∫(p2 + mp2)(1/2)(1/e((E - μ)/T)±1)d3p) - (ksC2/Rs2) + (ks2))1/2(ΔKiloparsec)))2/C2))1/2))MbC2 Where now I am going to fully transform ωs to ks2 + mk2 because of that. ∇Eb(x,y,z,t,M,I,k,φ,ρ,m) = ∇(1/((1-(((2MbG / Rs) - (Is(ks2 + mk2)/2Mb) + (((8πG/3)((g/(2π)3)∫(p2 + mp2)(1/2)(1/e((E - μ)/T)±1)d3p) - (ksC2/Rs2) + (ks2))1/2(ΔKiloparsec)))2/C2))1/2))MbC2 Where it does literally say that it is caused by Spin/Curvature DE. and Gaussian Curvature = 1/r2 in a sphere, which is k1k2 = K = k2 Where K = Rab/gab Where Rab = kTab Where this is about to go through a transform. ∇Eb(x,y,z,t,M,I,k,φ,ρ,m) = ∇(1/((1-(((2MbG / Rs) - (Is(ksTab./gab) + mk2)/2Mb) + (((8πG/3)((g/(2π)3)∫(p2 + mp2)(1/2)(1/e((E - μ)/T)±1)d3p) - (ksC2/Rs2) + (ksTab/gab ))1/2(ΔKiloparsec)))2/C2))1/2))MbC2 Where Now Another Transform. ∇Eb(x,y,z,t,M,I,k,φ,ρ,m) = ∇(1/((1-(((2MbG / Rs) - (Is(ksGab./gab8π) + mk2)/2Mb) + (((8πG/3)((g/(2π)3)∫(p2 + mp2)(1/2)(1/e((E - μ)/T)±1)d3p) - (ksC2/Rs2) + (ksGab/gab8π ))1/2(ΔKiloparsec)))2/C2))1/2))MbC2 (a,b) >(u,v) transform and ∇Eb(x,y,z,t,M,I,k,φ,ρ,m) = ∇(1/((1-(((2MbG / Rs) - (Is(ksGuv./guv8π) + mk2)/2Mb) + (((8πG/3)((g/(2π)3)∫(p2 + mp2)(1/2)(1/e((E - μ)/T)±1)d3p) - (ksC2/Rs2) + (ksGuv/guv8π ))1/2(ΔKiloparsec)))2/C2))1/2))MbC2 Edited November 26, 2017 by Vmedvil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vmedvil Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Vmedvil said: Ya, there is a problem with using that for the Cosmo k and p do not equal zero that would be devoid of matter, but it does = k ∇Eb(x,y,z,t,ω,M,I, φ,ρ,m) = ∇(1/((1-(((2MbG / Rs) - (Isωs(ks2 + mk2)(1/2)/2Mb) + (((8πG/3)((g/(2π)3)∫(p2 + mp2)(1/2)(1/e((E - μ)/T)±1)d3p) - (ksC2/Rs2) + (ks2))1/2(ΔKiloparsec)))2/C2))1/2))MbC2 Where now I am going to fully transform ωs to ks2 + mk2 because of that. ∇Eb(x,y,z,t,M,I,k,φ,ρ,m) = ∇(1/((1-(((2MbG / Rs) - (Is(ks2 + mk2)/2Mb) + (((8πG/3)((g/(2π)3)∫(p2 + mp2)(1/2)(1/e((E - μ)/T)±1)d3p) - (ksC2/Rs2) + (ks2))1/2(ΔKiloparsec)))2/C2))1/2))MbC2 Where it does literally say that it is caused by Spin/Curvature DE. and Gaussian Curvature = 1/r2 in a sphere, which is k1k2 = K = k2 Where K = Rab/gab Where Rab = kTab Where this is about to go through a transform. ∇Eb(x,y,z,t,M,I,k,φ,ρ,m) = ∇(1/((1-(((2MbG / Rs) - (Is(ksTab./gab) + mk2)/2Mb) + (((8πG/3)((g/(2π)3)∫(p2 + mp2)(1/2)(1/e((E - μ)/T)±1)d3p) - (ksC2/Rs2) + (ksTab/gab ))1/2(ΔKiloparsec)))2/C2))1/2))MbC2 Where Now Another Transform. ∇Eb(x,y,z,t,M,I,k,φ,ρ,m) = ∇(1/((1-(((2MbG / Rs) - (Is(ksGab./gab8π) + mk2)/2Mb) + (((8πG/3)((g/(2π)3)∫(p2 + mp2)(1/2)(1/e((E - μ)/T)±1)d3p) - (ksC2/Rs2) + (ksGab/gab8π ))1/2(ΔKiloparsec)))2/C2))1/2))MbC2 (a,b) >(u,v) transform and ∇Eb(x,y,z,t,M,I,k,φ,ρ,m) = ∇(1/((1-(((2MbG / Rs) - (Is(ksGuv./guv8π) + mk2)/2Mb) + (((8πG/3)((g/(2π)3)∫(p2 + mp2)(1/2)(1/e((E - μ)/T)±1)d3p) - (ksC2/Rs2) + (ksGuv/guv8π ))1/2(ΔKiloparsec)))2/C2))1/2))MbC2 Where I still forgot G in ab to uv Split and detransform back to ωs to make it the same as Cosmo ∇Eb(x,y,z,t,M,I,k,φ,ρ,m) = ∇(1/((1-(((2MbG / Rs) - (Isωs(ksGuv./guv8πG)1/2 + mk2)/2Mb)+ (((8πG/3)((g/(2π)3)∫(p2 + mp2)(1/2)(1/e((E - μ)/T)±1)d3p) - (ksC2/Rs2) + (ksGuv/guv8πG ))1/2(ΔKiloparsec)))2/C2))1/2))MbC2 Which Cut E= MC2 and (1/f((x,y,z,t,M,I,k,φ,ρ,m))) ∇'(x,y,z,t,M,I,k,φ,ρ,m) = ∇((1-(((2MbG / Rs) - (Isωs(ksGuv./guv8πG)1/2 + mk2)/2Mb)+ (((8πG/3)((g/(2π)3)∫(p2 + mp2)(1/2)(1/e((E - μ)/T)±1)d3p) - (ksC2/Rs2) + (ksGuv/guv8πG ))1/2(ΔKiloparsec)))2/C2))1/2) Reverse Solve ∇(x,y,z) = ∇'(x,y,z,t,M,I,k,φ,ρ,m)((1-(((2MbG / Rs) - (Isωs(ksGuv./guv8πG)1/2 + mk2)/2Mb)+ (((8πG/3)((g/(2π)3)∫(p2 + mp2)(1/2)(1/e((E - μ)/T)±1)d3p) - (ksC2/Rs2) + (ksGuv/guv8πG ))1/2(ΔKiloparsec)))2/C2))1/2) Absorb Schrodinger Equation. iħ(d/dt)Ψ(r,t) - V(r,t)Ψ(r,t) / (ħ2/2M)Ψ(r,t) = ∇2 ∇'(x,y,z,t,ω,M,I,k,φ,ρ,m,Ψ) = (iħ(d/dt)Ψ(r,t) - V(r,t)Ψ(r,t) / (ħ2/2Mb)Ψ(r,t))1/2((1-(((2MbG / Rs) - (Isωs(ksGuv./guv8πG)1/2 + mk2)/2Mb)+ (((8πG/3)((g/(2π)3)∫(p2 + mp2)(1/2)(1/e((E - μ)/T)±1)d3p) - (ksC2/Rs2) + (ksGuv/guv8πG ))1/2(ΔKiloparsec)))2/C2))1/2) Reaquire E= MC2 and (1/f((x,y,z,t,M,I,k,φ,ρ,m))) Eb(x,y,z,t,ω,M,I,k,φ,ρ,m,Ψ) = (iħ(d/dt)Ψ(r,t) - V(r,t)Ψ(r,t) / (ħ2/2Mb)Ψ(r,t))1/2(1/((1-(((2MbG / Rs) - (Isωs(ksGuv./guv8πG)1/2 + mk2)/2Mb)+ (((8πG/3)((g/(2π)3)∫(p2 + mp2)(1/2)(1/e((E - μ)/T)±1)d3p) - (ksC2/Rs2) + (ksGuv/guv8πG ))1/2(ΔKiloparsec)))2/C2))1/2))MbC2 Where Then C2 = (1/ε0 μ0) Eb(x,y,z,t,ω,M,I,k,φ,ρ,m,Ψ) = (iħ(d/dt)Ψ(r,t) - V(r,t)Ψ(r,t) / (ħ2/2Mb)Ψ(r,t))1/2(1/((1-(((2MbG / Rs) - (Isωs(ksGuv./guv8πG)1/2 + mk2)/2Mb)+ (((8πG/3)((g/(2π)3)∫(p2 + mp2)(1/2)(1/e((E - μ)/T)±1)d3p) - (ks(1/ε0 μ0)/Rs2) + (ksGuv/guv8πG ))1/2(ΔKiloparsec)))2/(1/ε0 μ0)))1/2))Mb(1/ε0 μ0) Edited November 26, 2017 by Vmedvil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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