Mordred Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) Take a waveform. A long sinusiodal wave has no determinant length. A spike or excitation restores to ground state in a finite region. Thats your pointlike Compton wavelength where the pointlike property becomes meaningless beyond. Edited December 4, 2017 by Mordred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubbelosix Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, Mordred said: Take a waveform. A long sinusiodal wave has no determinant length. A spike or excitation restores to ground state in a finite region. Thats your pointlike Compton wavelength where the pointlike property becomes meaningless beyond. Mordred, the world is not just a construction of waves? And a string is cited as a spatially-extended object? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Solid is the ultimate illusion sorry to tell you that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubbelosix Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) I agree, things like me and you only appear solid, because when objects tend to push together, electrostatic interactions push back. Gives things solidity on our level, but is really a composite system of much more complicated decohered systems owing their existence to entanglement and properties like the zeno effect in which evolution of wave functions do not happen. Though a misnomer, I do believe in wave particle duality, I prefer to call it, wave particle complimentarity. Edited December 4, 2017 by Dubbelosix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) Read that Hobbs paper again. It literally means there is no corpuscular (solid) property to a particle. The paper deals directly with the particle/wave duality. I forgot to add the De-Broglie wavelength which applies to massive particles. Edited December 4, 2017 by Mordred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypervalent_iodine Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 ! Moderator Note Thread split from here. Dubbelosix, please take note of the mod note I posted in that thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubbelosix Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Mordred said: Read that Hobbs paper again. It literally means there is no corpuscular (solid) property to a particle. The paper deals directly with the particle/wave duality. I forgot to add the De-Broglie wavelength which applies to massive particles. The wave particle duality as seen in the double slit experiment shows that the particle is not always a wave, so this idea that waves is all there is means nothing to me, sorry. It's been suggested I am not posting mainstream science and I have contacted through the appropriate channels. Strange how I am being accused of being outside mainstream when I am posting quotes from other places which support this idea that rotation is a real property so long as there are internal degree's of freedom - by the way, I already said this had gone off topic when we started discussing ''my opinions'' on particles, yet I am shafted in the open even though I was somewhat baited into those discussions by Swansont. My original reply here stays, a nucleus can rotate and will have a rotational kinetic energy, anything that classical rotates, uses energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeoxyRiboRobert Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) To those whom it may concern, do not bother to try and tackle Dubbelosix's comments with the hopes of getting a response, as he has been banned a few hours ago. 8 hours ago, Mordred said: Read that Hobbs paper again. It literally means there is no corpuscular (solid) property to a particle. The paper deals directly with the particle/wave duality. I forgot to add the De-Broglie wavelength which applies to massive particles. I was under the impression that the De-Broglie can theoretically apply to all particles regardless of their respective mass? Or are you saying that it is unlikely we'd witness any such wave-like behaviour unless the particle is massive? See equation: y (Lambda) = h (Planck's constant) / mv (momentum), mass is a variable however there is seemingly no limit, except of course it must be greater than zero. Edited December 4, 2017 by DeoxyRiboRobert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) here De-Broglie waves of matter waves. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter_wave Note the reference to wave particle duality Then note the cutoff reference between the Compton and De-Brogle here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compton_wavelength In other words I should have more careful to make the distiction in the first place. However I was thinking of other questions Dubbelosix was asking on spin. So a little distracted, by his other questions Edited December 4, 2017 by Mordred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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