Radam Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 https://imgur.com/a/ESsNm I have a rough idea on how to solve the second one, but I don't know if my method is correct. I used the shell method with the value (y+3) for the radius. But I have no clue how to solve the first question. https://imgur.com/a/zJdFw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiot Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Are you not aware of this formula? [math]L = \int_a^b {\sqrt {\left( {1 + {{\left( {\frac{{dy}}{{dx}}} \right)}^2}} \right)} } dx[/math] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radam Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 2 hours ago, studiot said: Are you not aware of this formula? L=∫ba(1+(dydx)2)−−−−−−−−−−−√dx Yes I am familiar with it. I'm not sure how I can reduce the square roots, enabling me to integrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiot Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Have you tried some algebra? I make it [math]4\int_1^2 {\sqrt {1 + \frac{{\left( {{x^2} - 4} \right)\left( {{x^2} + 4} \right)}}{x}} dx} [/math] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Country Boy Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) For the first, you are given the graph of y= x4+ (1/32)x-2. The derivative is y'= 4x3- (1/16)x-3. Notice the "3" and "-3" powers. When you square that, something nice happens: y'2= (4x3- (1/16)x-3)2= 16x6- 2(4x3)(1/16)(x-3)+ (1/256)x^-6. I wrote that middle term out In detail to make clear that the "x" terms cancel leaving 16x6- (1/2)+ (1/256)x-6. When we add 1 that "-1/2" becomes "+1/2" so that is simply (4x3+ (1/16)x-3)2 , a "perfect square". sqrt{1+ (dy/dx)2}= 4x3+ (1/16)x-3. Integrate that from 1 to 2. Edited December 7, 2017 by Country Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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