Capiert Posted December 18, 2017 Author Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) 16 hours ago, swansont said: On 17 December 2017 at 2:33 AM, Capiert said: For my crude measuring instruments it does (help accuracy to deal with large approximate voltages). I can't measure small values very accurately. Measuring a volt or more should be trivial even with inexpensive equipment. Measuring less than a volt, e.g. to 3 decimal places is a problem. 16 hours ago, swansont said: On 17 December 2017 at 5:43 AM, Capiert said: Charge might be spin direction No, it's not. I guess you mean, charge must_be (=is) unique (if it has nothing to do with spin).? Does a neutron have (any) charge? E.g. Can we accelerate or deflect neutrons with (electro) magnetism (at all)? (.. Is a (neutral) neutron (dielectrically) polarizable? e.g. to some degree (chargeable). Can a neutron have (or get (some kind of, or amount of)) spin? e.g. rotation. E.g. like a spinning [base]ball. ) If yes I would expect a (~bell shaped) statistical distribution curve. Edited December 18, 2017 by Capiert
Capiert Posted December 18, 2017 Author Posted December 18, 2017 Variation(s) (away) from (given, ideal) exact (whole number) integers. E.g. (+/-%) (mechanical measurement) tolerances, you might (also?) call uncertainties? E.g. Is it possible the (Heisenberg) uncertainty principle is (just a fancy wording, for) dealing with something like (the metal) industry's "+/- Tolerances" (of measurement, e.g. in length)? Since your instruments are not precise enough, you loose a decimal place of accuracy, thus defining the ruff approximation as quantized (into (number) groups), integerized into integers, ruff approximations. .. (for the lack of precision). Quantum isn't that (really, a (fancy) word) (for meaning) ruff approximation(s)?
swansont Posted December 18, 2017 Posted December 18, 2017 6 hours ago, Capiert said: Measuring less than a volt, e.g. to 3 decimal places is a problem. The experiment you describe should not be giving such small values. You could do a DC experiment with a couple of 9V batteries, and get 18 V difference between the plates. Mains voltage should be much higher. 6 hours ago, Capiert said: I guess you mean, charge must_be (=is) unique electrons are charged, as are protons, and a whole host of other subatomic particles 6 hours ago, Capiert said: (if it has nothing to do with spin).? Nothing to do with spin 6 hours ago, Capiert said: Does a neutron have (any) charge? No. 6 hours ago, Capiert said: E.g. Can we accelerate or deflect neutrons with (electro) magnetism (at all)? Yes. Neutrons do have a charge distribution despite being neutral, so they have a magnetic moment, and can be deflected in a magnetic field. 6 hours ago, Capiert said: (.. Is a (neutral) neutron (dielectrically) polarizable? e.g. to some degree (chargeable). Can a neutron have (or get (some kind of, or amount of)) spin? e.g. rotation. Neutrons are spin 1/2 6 hours ago, Capiert said: E.g. like a spinning [base]ball. quantum spin is not physical rotation. It is intrinsic angular momentum. 6 hours ago, Capiert said: If yes I would expect a (~bell shaped) statistical distribution curve. You and a lot of classical physicists ~100 years ago. They were shocked to find that these particles are either spin up or spin down, rather than having a distribution. (Stern-Gerlach experiment) 5 hours ago, Capiert said: Variation(s) (away) from (given, ideal) exact (whole number) integers. E.g. (+/-%) (mechanical measurement) tolerances, you might (also?) call uncertainties? E.g. Is it possible the (Heisenberg) uncertainty principle is (just a fancy wording, for) dealing with something like (the metal) industry's "+/- Tolerances" (of measurement, e.g. in length)? Industry tolerances are not driven by quantum mechanical uncertainty. 5 hours ago, Capiert said: Quantum isn't that (really, a (fancy) word) (for meaning) ruff approximation(s)? The opposite of quantum is continuum. It means there are discrete values, rather than continuous distributions (as one might classically expect)
John Cuthber Posted December 18, 2017 Posted December 18, 2017 12 hours ago, Capiert said: Measuring less than a volt, e.g. to 3 decimal places is a problem. No, it's not.
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