SuperPolymath Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, swansont said: Newton was a proponent of light being a particle. His aether was for transmission of something other than light. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminiferous_aether Feel free to open a thread where you predict the observed results with classical physics. Start with explaining spin classically. I was going to attempt to work with @Mordred on this but you locked said topic. So I sent him a pm on the subject in question. If he takes on the project I will attempt to do so, then I will post the topic. Edited December 25, 2017 by SuperPolymath
swansont Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 13 minutes ago, SuperPolymath said: I was going to attempt to work with @Mordred on this but you locked said topic. So I sent him a pm on the subject in question. If he takes on the project I will attempt to do so, then I will post the topic. You had no model, and asked that it be locked.
SuperPolymath Posted December 25, 2017 Author Posted December 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, swansont said: You had no model, and asked that it be locked. It was an attempt to work with a user who had the necessary education to help me model-build, & I never once asked you to lock it. I said move it to trash can before resorting to locking it entirely, at least from there it could be moved back into speculations in the event a model would arise from the concepts.
swansont Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 1 minute ago, SuperPolymath said: It was an attempt to work with a user who had the necessary education to help me model-build, & I never once asked you to lock it. I said move it to trash can before resorting to locking it entirely, at least from there it could be moved back into speculations in the event a model would arise from the concepts. Moving to the trash locks the thread. Model building (from scratch) is not what we do here.
SuperPolymath Posted December 25, 2017 Author Posted December 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, swansont said: Moving to the trash locks the thread. Model building (from scratch) is not what we do here. It's not from scratch, you have everything up to GR, pre-QM.
swansont Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 10 minutes ago, SuperPolymath said: It's not from scratch, you have everything up to GR, pre-QM. The new stuff - what you intend/need to show - is from scratch.
SuperPolymath Posted December 25, 2017 Author Posted December 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, swansont said: The new stuff - what you intend/need to show - is from scratch. Everything is still dictated by motion under GR.
Vmedvil Posted December 26, 2017 Posted December 26, 2017 4 hours ago, SuperPolymath said: Everything is still dictated by motion under GR. GR is not motion it is Gravity, SR is motion polymath.
SuperPolymath Posted December 26, 2017 Author Posted December 26, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Vmedvil said: GR is not motion it is Gravity, SR is motion polymath. All gravity has motion. It's called frame-dragging. Edited December 26, 2017 by SuperPolymath
Vmedvil Posted December 26, 2017 Posted December 26, 2017 Just now, SuperPolymath said: All gravity has motion. Yes, but it is governed by SR and generated by GR.
SuperPolymath Posted December 26, 2017 Author Posted December 26, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Vmedvil said: Yes, but it is governed by SR and generated by GR. GR states that matter tells spacetime how to curve & this curve (gravity) propagates at C for that level of reality (1.6x10^-35 meters through 13 billion light years) & tells matter how to move via SR, there are infinite smaller levels composing an infinite larger levels, that is a governing property & generating property Vmedvil, but it's all deterministic because it's all (including SR) governed by GR, Vmedvil. In either case @swansont was incorrect. This wouldn't be modeled from scratch. Edited December 26, 2017 by SuperPolymath
Vmedvil Posted December 26, 2017 Posted December 26, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, SuperPolymath said: GR states that matter tells spacetime how to curve & this curve (gravity) propagates at C for that level of reality (1.6x10^-35 meters through 13 billion light years) how to move, there are infinite smaller levels composing an infinite larger levels, that is a governing property & generating property Vmedvil, but it's all deterministic because it's all (incuding SR) governed by GR, Vmedvil. In either case @swansont was incorrect. This wouldn't be modeled from scratch. Ya, you are talking to someone way different I know what the Electromagnetic Energy Stress Tensor says do not confuse me with Swan. Maxwell's equations Edited December 26, 2017 by Vmedvil
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