Forces- Why stop at 4?

[OroborosEmber]

(The longest most insane scientific theory you'll ever read. I'm almost sorry about it.)

Inside singularity energy was unified as one field/force.

Following the big bang, first gravity manifested, then the strong force, the weak force, and finally the electromagnetic force.

These all seem to me to define as spatial forces which can calculated using time-symmetric formulas.

But as the universe expands, and the rate per square unit energy lever lowers further, logically couldn't a new force manifest? While a 5th spatial force would likely destroy the physical nature of our universe, why should there not be a time-like manifestion of force? Maybe even several?

What if we never considered this because we ourselves are a force incarnent? Could life be a force? The culprit who broke the symmetry of time? 

I'm hypothesizing the life force split off the spatial forces and manifested when carbon began forming in stars. It doesn't bond the straight forward way in which hydrogen and helium do. Instead it bonds through a sympathetic resonance of sorts. To me, it looks like cooperation for mutual benefit and gained existence. Look how many life forms carbon went on to produce! 

Perhaps before carbon formation in stars hydrogen molecules had the luxury of moving forward and backward in time. Maybe this explains why the universe's composition was just right for life. Nothing aged, decayed, or annihilated until enough energy had been converted to mass in order to form a universe in which life could exist. Which implies even atoms have survival instincts, but they recognized their unity as the only means for their survival. It also implies the atoms are acting in a deterministic way to achieve a certain agreed upon goal. Which paradoxically means both fate AND free will exist.

It's a kind New Age, universal consciousness take on the anthropic principle, which is technically correct, but also WILDLY EGOTISTIC not to mention speciest- just because animals lack the certain characteristic that collapses wave functions does not mean they're not conscious organisms that experience pain as we do- they deserve rights- particularly against factory farming. I'd like to point out that while a animal cannot collapse a wavefunction, a man made tool can. So somewhere around the time man began making tools, which probably coincided with the development of language, a SIXTH force manifested- one capable of imposing duality on unity. So when the bible says the first men lived to be 1000s of years old- maybe they actually did until enough waves collapsed for time to move at the rate we are familar with today. Which almost implies LANGUAGE is what collapses a wave, not observation. Perhaps linking the two concepts with the notion of cooperation for the greater good that carbon demonstrated in stars. Forgive me for being excessively poetic, but it appears they sang themselves into existence. They OBSERVED how the could benefit from COOPERATION and the used the LANGUAGE of vibration/sound/song to achieve these ends. "In the beginning was the word, and the word was with god, and the word was god." Vibration translated to word, while cooperative observation translated to god, or love. It took all 3 of these qualities to manifest the life in waves, logically you would need all 3 to collapse them.

It just now occurs to me when language first developed, the universe was probably predominately wavelike in nature, and matter was less solid, as language and cooperation evolved far enough there was a higher particle ratio allowing for the production of tools- have you ever seen a monkey make a weapon? No. Because they lack something related to language and conscious, that we possess-my guess would be planning and acting by intuition rather than survival. So i suppose intuition, our gut feelings, and our truths in hearts is the key to our "higher power" or the force that will appear next.

Id like to speculate it will be the force of the self.

That everything has cooperated as one unit up to this point so that individuals might one day achieve the seemingly impossible task Jesus gave when he said: "know theyself." Because only once you know yourself can you experience freewill. Cause god loves us enough to give us free will. We owe all the elementary particles, atoms, and other universal building blocks love beyond compare. They sacrificed their freedom for 15 BILLION years so that we might know ourselves and be free. The strange quarks are adorable, I thought i was just personifying them when I started pretending to speak for them a couple of years back, me: "Law of attraction said ANYTHING i believe-i noticed strange quarks teleport-therefore so can I. If I'm nice to them maybe they'll tell me how." Somedays id personify magnetism, others singularity, or even ideas like karma. For whatever reason magnesium was untrustworthy and conspired against me. I didn't have friends. So i befriended creation. So of course i was talking to myself. I'm a undividable part of whole. I knew myself enough to achieve freedom, but in that growth no one else understood me, the lonliness was nearly fatal. Because the universe is loving cooperation, and it appears time can do whatever the heck it wants- a force of coincidental humor saved me. OH WOW TIME! is the true expression of love- it is not a preset arrow. It is constantly creating then sacrifices itself on our path to self knowledge, freedom, happiness, and many other joys to come. "But time! You'll never get to know yourself! How horrible!" "I'm you, dumbass. Your me. How easily you forget yourselfs!"

Humans think we're so intellectually & genetically superior- i bet we're the ONLY species in the entire universe that can't remember our own selves- that forgot how to observe, cooperate, and communicate correctly for the greater good. Today we allow curropt leaders to tell us what our greater good is so we can comfortably hide from god-given universal freedom. And all those elementary particles have to wait on us...wait, no? Uhmk. WOW, start searching for yourself- its in how you see, interpret and treat the universe around you. I bet some people are thinking I'm a schizophrenic hippy, which is cool, it's true, my dream world spills into my "real" world. The universe is a wakeful dreamer. And if i was one of the last ones free i would die from embarassment. 

Last thing, the universe should gradually become more and more partically. Although since the particles are smart, compassionate, and cooperate for survival and growth, i bet our leading physists wont even notice (unfair to string theorist) So hopefully soon here we will have popped enough waves to incorporate the strange properties of nonlocality. I remember thinking, "sounds like telepathy to me," "sounds like time travel to me"

Holy hell because duality isnt even the right word. I've been wondering lately what properties a collapsed particle would have- eternal spin. The first time i learned about quantum entanglement i thought "that sounds like real love to me" knowing another piece so intimately to always balance them without ever giving up yourself. Even when your seperated to great distances. Imagine being a free flowing wave, connected to all around you and something pops you into a isolated confined sphere- a human would likely shut down- the particle starts looking by spinning, which i assume results in the same sympathetic resonance formation as we saw with carbon. Because we are built from stuff that never gives up the fight ...for the freedom from self, which is also the freedom of self. All for the love of a paradox.

Hah, i think quantum entangled particles are really making new waves.

Because if I was allowed to mentally access the nonlocality of spacetime before we all do it together i would misuse it horribly, because i cant control my ego.

BAH FINE.

I recently got a fortune cookie which said you will write a book

No kidding, guess that was a deterministic command, not a option of free will, that all just spilled..from me, through me, to me.

I really should reover and edit it, but at some point if you want to be a honest person you have to stop editing yourself. 

Time is claiming to be both a dimension and a force. Whatever that means.

Edited January 24, 2018 by OroborosEmber

[Strange]

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Forces- Why stop at 4?

Because science is evidence based.

23 minutes ago, OroborosEmber said:

The longest most insane scientific theory you'll ever read.

It is not a theory. (I won't argue with the rest of the description.)

Maybe you should ask the moderators to move this to the right place (Speculations or Trash).

[swansont]

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Moved to speculations, but unless this starts complying with the guidelines (testable predictions, a model, etc.) it will be locked.

 

[John Cuthber]

9 hours ago, Strange said:

9 hours ago, OroborosEmber said:

The longest most insane scientific theory you'll ever read.

It is not a theory. (I won't argue with the rest of the description.)

Maybe you should ask the moderators to move this to the right place (Speculations or Trash).

I will argue with the rest of the description, on the basis that I didn't read it and it's not scientific.

[Strange]

28 minutes ago, John Cuthber said:

I will argue with the rest of the description, on the basis that I didn't read it and it's not scientific.

So we are left with "longest" and "most insane". Having read the timecube website, I have to say it probably fails those as well.

[Lord Antares]

1 hour ago, Strange said:

So we are left with "longest" and "most insane". Having read the timecube website, I have to say it probably fails those as well.

And it's also funny because actual, legitimate theories can be hundreds of pages long.

[Moontanman]

Who says we stop at four? Four is all we have detected so far but to say we've stopped is quite an assertion..