vegetable juice... substitute for caffeine?

[Strange]

26 minutes ago, Alex_Krycek said:

A lot of people spit out the seeds when eating the watermelon and lose out on these additional nutrients. 

Worth noting that while watermelon seeds are edible, that is not true of all fruit. There was a recent case of someone in the UK nearly dying after eating a small number of cherry(?) seeds. And tomato seeds are also very toxic. 

Edited February 4, 2018 by Strange
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[Alex_Krycek]

Just now, dimreepr said:

Because it tastes like shit.

Is that an observation based on experience, or is it an assumption?

[dimreepr]

2 minutes ago, Alex_Krycek said:

Is that an observation based on experience, or is it an assumption?

You tell me, ever tasted shit?

[Alex_Krycek]

Just now, dimreepr said:

You tell me, ever tasted shit?

Nope.  Just like you've never tasted watermelon rind. 

[dimreepr]

Just now, Alex_Krycek said:

Nope.  Just like you've never tasted watermelon rind. 

Who's assuming now?

[Alex_Krycek]

Just now, dimreepr said:

Who's assuming now?

Dunno.  Couldn't care less at this point. 

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Worth noting that while watermelon seeds are edible, that is not true of all fruit. There was a recent case of someone in the UK dying after eating a small number of cherry(?) seeds. And tomato seeds are also very toxic.

Interesting.

[Strange]

2 minutes ago, Alex_Krycek said:

Interesting.

Yep. As someone said earlier, not everything natural is good. The most powerful poisons known are 100% natural.

[dimreepr]

In response to the OP, caffeine isn't a stimulant it just stops us being tired, by replacing naturally excreted hormones.  

[John Cuthber]

1 hour ago, Alex_Krycek said:

some nutritional aspects of the fruit can't be accessed without a juicer.  For example, the rind of a watermelon is highly nutritious,

Got any evidence for that?

[Alex_Krycek]

Just now, dimreepr said:

In response to the OP, caffeine isn't a stimulant it just stops us being tired, by replacing naturally excreted hormones.  

Um...yes.  Yes it is:

 

Caffeine is a central nervous system (CNS) stimulant of the methylxanthine class.^[10] It is the world's most widely consumed psychoactive drug. Unlike many other psychoactive substances, it is legal and unregulated in nearly all parts of the world. There are several known mechanisms of action to explain the effects of caffeine. The most prominent is that it reversibly blocks the action of adenosine on its receptor and consequently prevents the onset of drowsiness induced by adenosine. Caffeine also stimulates certain portions of the autonomic nervous system.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeine

 

Caffeine is a naturally occurring chemical stimulant called trimethylxanthine. Its chemical formula is C8H10N4O2 (see Erowid: Caffeine Chemistry for an image of the molecular structure). It is a drug, and actually shares a number of traits with more notorious drugs such as amphetamines, cocaine and heroin.

https://science.howstuffworks.com/caffeine1.htm

 

Whether it's brewed from a K-Cup, sipped in sweet tea, savored in chocolate or downed in cola, caffeine is a mild stimulant to the central nervous system that has become a regular fixture in everyday life.

https://www.livescience.com/56603-interesting-facts-about-caffeine.html

[Strange]

Just to drag the discussion back on track ...

As far as I am aware, there is no real reason to give up caffeine unless you have a medical condition that can be aggravated by it (anxiety, some heart conditions, etc.) or a severe allergy to it. However, it is something that an awful lot of people do seem to give up when they are trying to be "healthy". (No doubt falling for the 8-pints-of-water-a-day myth at the same time.)

And the OP's reason was entirely bogus.

[Alex_Krycek]

Just now, Strange said:

Just to drag the discussion back on track ...

As far as I am aware, there is no real reason to give up caffeine unless you have a medical condition that can be aggravated by it (anxiety, some heart conditions, etc.) or a severe allergy to it. However, it is something that an awful lot of people do seem to give up when they are trying to be "healthy". (No doubt falling for the 8-pints-of-water-a-day myth at the same time.)

And the OP's reason was entirely bogus.

In low to moderate doses it's not an issue.  But many people become dependent on caffeine to maintain their "edge", so to speak, which is where the problems begin (insomnia, anxiety, fatigue).  These negative side effects of over-consumption is what the OP may have experienced and is seeking a solution for. 

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/caffeine-side-effects#section10

There's a time and a place to use it effectively, such as when you're already well rested and want an extra boost to be more creative.  But when people are in the habit of  reaching for a cup of coffee anytime they're tired, that's when it becomes an issue.

[Strange]

So, we agree. No reason to give it up.

But, like everything from water to vitamins, it can be harmful in excess.

[Alex_Krycek]

Just now, Strange said:

So, we agree. No reason to give it up.

But, like everything from water to vitamins, it can be harmful in excess.

It all depends.  How much is the OP using?  What negative effects, if any, is he experiencing?  Does he have an addictive personality that may predispose him to drink caffeine in excess?  How would his life be different after trying alternatives to caffeine, whether that's abstaining from it completely, or switching to something like fresh vegetable juice?  There are better options out there.   

Edited February 4, 2018 by Alex_Krycek

[Strange]

3 hours ago, Alex_Krycek said:

It all depends.  How much is the OP using?  What negative effects, if any, is he experiencing?  Does he have an addictive personality that may predispose him to drink caffeine in excess?  How would his life be different after trying alternatives to caffeine, whether that's abstaining from it completely, or switching to something like fresh vegetable juice?  There are better options out there.   

As the OP was concerned about "alkaline levels" I doubt there is any point trying to rationalise their behaviour.