michel123456 Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 Well, from my experience I am astonished with the fact that many people around me firmly believe in the importance of the zodiac signs. People including PhD. To the point that is not a belief anymore, it is presented as a certainty.
StringJunky Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 On 3/31/2018 at 8:26 AM, michel123456 said: Well, from my experience I am astonished with the fact that many people around me firmly believe in the importance of the zodiac signs. People including PhD. To the point that is not a belief anymore, it is presented as a certainty. Expand Us aquarians don't believe in that stuff. 1
sunshaker Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 I think Astrology, has a greater right to be in a science forum than religion, there is LESS science for a god, than for Astrology. Some times when i do pop to this forum, there are more posts on religion, than there is science. Astrology: study of the movements and relative positions of celestial bodies interpreted as having an influence on human affairs and the natural world. The moon is a "celestial body", there is some science to how the moon effects animals & people, animals I suppose more to do with the tides, but the moon is the nearest celestial body, so I suppose it would have the greatest effects. science does not completely rule out yet unmeasurable effects of celestial bodies upon humans & animals., Plus Astrology has never been taken seriously by the science community, so no in depth studies have been made. I would guess that when certain star signs are in the sky, we are bombarded by neutrinos from said system, we are told neutrinos pass through us with no measurable effect, but there may be " yet unmeasurable effects". I won't get into gravitational effects, because we still do not yet fully understand gravity. Anyway Astrology deserves more respect than the "Trash", if Astrology goes in trash, then so should Religion.
Strange Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 On 3/31/2018 at 11:18 AM, sunshaker said: Astrology: study of the movements and relative positions of celestial bodies interpreted as having an influence on human affairs and the natural world. Expand Therefore, not based on science. On 3/31/2018 at 11:18 AM, sunshaker said: science does not completely rule out yet unmeasurable effects of celestial bodies upon humans & animals., Expand If they are unmeasurable then, in scientific terms, they don't exist. On the other hand, people who believe in astrology seem to think that everyone born within the same 30 day period will experience the same things in their life. That should be easily measurable. In fact it should be obvious. But it doesn't happen. On 3/31/2018 at 11:18 AM, sunshaker said: Plus Astrology has never been taken seriously by the science community, so no in depth studies have been made. Expand Not true. Studies have been done and found it to be utterly meaningless. But thanks for telling us about your [quasi-religious] beliefs. It was fascinating.
hypervalent_iodine Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 The Religion section isn’t for proselytising, or maybe you would have a point, sunshaker.
sunshaker Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 On 3/31/2018 at 11:22 AM, Strange said: Therefore, not based on science. Expand Once again, the sun is a "celestial body", which has a great effect on humans/animals 32 minutes ago, Strange said: If they are unmeasurable then, in scientific terms, they don't exist. On the other hand, people who believe in astrology seem to think that everyone born within the same 30 day period will experience the same things in their life. That should be easily measurable. In fact it should be obvious. But it doesn't happen. Expand I myself do not agree with the modern interpretation of Astrology, & 30 day period, even the light/neutrinos/energies from these star systems/signs, take far longer than 30 days, so I would not expect people born under each sign to have more similar life experiences, but it does not mean this "celestial bodies" have no effect upon the humans/animals. 32 minutes ago, Strange said: Not true. Studies have been done and found it to be utterly meaningless. But thanks for telling us about your [quasi-religious] beliefs. It was fascinating. Expand I just believe on some level, there is some truth in almost anything.& open to all points of view.
iNow Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 (edited) On 3/31/2018 at 12:06 PM, sunshaker said: Once again, the sun is a "celestial body", which has a great effect on humans/animals Expand Correct, and plants, too. However, measuring that effect does not involve labels like Pisces or dragon or weekly fortune cookie comments from random peddlers of woo. On 3/31/2018 at 12:06 PM, sunshaker said: I just believe on some level, there is some truth in almost anything.& open to all points of view. Expand Be careful not to let your mind be so open that your brains fall out. Edited March 31, 2018 by iNow
sunshaker Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 On 3/31/2018 at 12:31 PM, iNow said: Correct, and plants, too. However, measuring that effect does not involve labels like Pisces or dragon or weekly fortune cookie comments from random peddlers of woo. Expand True, Perhaps "ASTROLOGY" could be condensed to those born under the Sun & those born under the Moon. like the saying, "As different as Night & Day". 4 minutes ago, iNow said: Be careful not to let your mind be so open that your brains fall out. Expand No worries, My brain is anchored to the physical, My mind has a mind of it's own.
tmx3 Posted March 31, 2018 Author Posted March 31, 2018 Whoa but who changed the title of this post without my permission? Change it back. Don’t alter things I say or write without my consent, especially if you’re going to make it look like I said it. At the very least, add your name alongside it stating that you edited it.
hypervalent_iodine Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 It was edited by staff (not me) in a manner generally recognised here as being an answer to the thread title. We are never going to have an astrology section.
iNow Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 If it’s a big deal (seriously, tho?) staff could add the prefix ANSWERED:
tmx3 Posted March 31, 2018 Author Posted March 31, 2018 On 3/31/2018 at 12:55 PM, hypervalent_iodine said: It was edited by staff (not me) in a manner generally recognised here as being an answer to the thread title. We are never going to have an astrology section. Expand Regardless, tell “staff” not to edit my things. ESPECIALLY if they don’t at least add who it is that’s editing the posts, and ESPECIALLY not without consent... Like wtf is this, a joke? Do not troll me that way. On 3/31/2018 at 1:03 PM, iNow said: If it’s a big deal (seriously, tho?) staff could add the prefix ANSWERED: Expand It is a big deal. God forbid the day someone hacks my stuff and posts things that aren’t from me. Think of the legal consequences, especially if someone makes some kind of threat from my account. But anyway whatever I’m over it.
Strange Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 On 3/31/2018 at 1:13 PM, tmx3 said: Regardless, tell “staff” not to edit my things. Expand The staff can do whatever they want.
hypervalent_iodine Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 On 3/31/2018 at 1:13 PM, tmx3 said: Regardless, tell “staff” not to edit my things. ESPECIALLY if they don’t at least add who it is that’s editing the posts, and ESPECIALLY not without consent... Like wtf is this, a joke? Do not troll me that way. Expand I’m sorry, but you don’t have ownership of thread titles. We won’t ever change the text of your posts (except for deleting links, or abuse, but we make those edits clear), but we do reserve the right to alter titles if it is deemed necessary. This happens when we need to split posts into new threads, if the titles are unclear or inappropriate, spammy, or we want to save people the time of reading a thread that has a very simple answer (for example).
tmx3 Posted March 31, 2018 Author Posted March 31, 2018 On 3/31/2018 at 1:17 PM, Strange said: The staff can do whatever they want. Expand Sure they can, but not on my behalf. I’ll gladly leave someplace where they’re changing things around without consent, making it look like I’m posting things that I’m not. On 3/31/2018 at 1:17 PM, hypervalent_iodine said: I’m sorry, but you don’t have ownership of thread titles. We won’t ever change the text of your posts (except for deleting links, or abuse, but we make those edits clear), but we do reserve the right to alter titles if it is deemed necessary. This happens when we need to split posts into new threads, if the titles are unclear or inappropriate, spammy, or we want to save people the time of reading a thread that has a very simple answer (for example). Expand If you’re changing the text—title or post—state that you’re doing it regardless so users know it’s you (staff, not “you” directly) and not me. That’s all I’m asking. Not trying to be cast in a light that I’m not supposed to be, especially if I have someone hacking my stuff to do it. On 3/31/2018 at 3:14 AM, iNow said: Expand Lol this made me laugh, feeling so uncomfortable right now.
hypervalent_iodine Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 I am sorry you didn’t feel the edit was clearly pointed out. Returning to the topic, are you at least satisfied with the response, or do you have further questions?
tmx3 Posted March 31, 2018 Author Posted March 31, 2018 On 3/31/2018 at 1:35 PM, hypervalent_iodine said: I am sorry you didn’t feel the edit was clearly pointed out. Returning to the topic, are you at least satisfied with the response, or do you have further questions? Expand Of course I have further questions. I have a problem that I haven’t solved yet.
hypervalent_iodine Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 On 3/31/2018 at 1:37 PM, tmx3 said: Of course I have further questions. I have a problem that I haven’t solved yet. Expand Then what are they, and what is your problem with respect to the OP?
iNow Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 On another note, this site likely won’t soon be opening a forum for numerology either.
hypervalent_iodine Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 On 3/31/2018 at 2:25 PM, iNow said: On another note, this site likely won’t soon be opening a forum for numerology either. Expand Did you devine that from your tea leaves?
tmx3 Posted March 31, 2018 Author Posted March 31, 2018 On 3/31/2018 at 2:25 PM, iNow said: On another note, this site likely won’t soon be opening a forum for numerology either. Expand Whoa it’s like you’re psychic or something and read my mind!
hypervalent_iodine Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 On 3/31/2018 at 3:16 PM, tmx3 said: Whoa it’s like you’re psychic or something and read my mind! Expand So are we done with this thread?
tmx3 Posted March 31, 2018 Author Posted March 31, 2018 On 3/31/2018 at 3:20 PM, hypervalent_iodine said: So are we done with this thread? Expand Yeah. Still no clue where to put it then.
hypervalent_iodine Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 If you are referring to your thread idea, you are welcome to use the Speculations forum, but you must be prepared to abide by the requirement for scientific rigour.
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