Edward Posted July 12, 2005 Posted July 12, 2005 Just watched the least creditable show on discovery channel "Myth Busters" And they talked about mystery bullets. A bullet whos properties prevent it from leaving any ballisticks evidence. Like something made of ice. They did tests with frozen H20 bullets which weren't able to reach their target bue to vaporization. So I was wondering if any other substances could be frozen fired out of a gun and do damage to a target then "Dissapear". Also I'm wondering if you could have a bullet made of a highly reactive metal like Rubidium which would react with the victms blood. Could this work?
ydoaPs Posted July 12, 2005 Posted July 12, 2005 i saw on CSI, some guy used frozen meat bullets. i'm not sure if that would work, though.
jgerlica Posted July 12, 2005 Posted July 12, 2005 Why go to the trouble when you could just use a Remington Accelerator? Chances are the sabot would never be found
jdurg Posted July 12, 2005 Posted July 12, 2005 Why, specifically and not just in your opinion, is Mythbusters not credible?
ydoaPs Posted July 12, 2005 Posted July 12, 2005 Why, specifically and not just in your opinion, is Mythbusters not credible? he said nothing of the credibility of Mythbusters
jdurg Posted July 12, 2005 Posted July 12, 2005 he said nothing of the credibility of Mythbusters Oh really? Just watched the least creditable show on discovery channel "Myth Busters" And they talked about mystery bullets. I guess I need to further my comprehension of the english language.
jgerlica Posted July 12, 2005 Posted July 12, 2005 What is a Remington Accelerator. It's a 55 grain .22 cal bullet loaded into a .30 cal cartridge, usually .308 or .30-06. Factory specs show a muzzle velocity of 4,080 fps.
jgerlica Posted July 12, 2005 Posted July 12, 2005 While they are certainly comparable, on the off chance that a sizeable piece of the jacket is located there would be no ballistic evidence whatsoever.
jgerlica Posted July 12, 2005 Posted July 12, 2005 Most modern sabots, for sporting gun use, are injection molded from heat resistant polycarbonate plastic or nylon. These plastic compounds will resist temperatures up to 500 degrees Fahrenheit and are formed in one piece, with a recess for the base of the bullet and four to six fluted fingers at the front. Since Remington no longer produces factory ammo, here is a link for reloading supplies.
YT2095 Posted July 12, 2005 Posted July 12, 2005 Ahhh polycarb!, I figured it had to be something frangible for it to leave little trace
jgerlica Posted July 12, 2005 Posted July 12, 2005 Quite an effective load as well, I dropped a rather nice white tail doe with an '06 two years ago.
Edward Posted July 12, 2005 Author Posted July 12, 2005 Ok I live in canada so I know very little about gun specs could somene symplify the last 6 posts. I'm particualy curious why polycarbonate plastic bullets will not leave ballistcs evidence. And about the Mythbusters creditability thing I dunno why I said that.
Silencer Posted July 13, 2005 Posted July 13, 2005 First, living in Canada has nothing to do with gun knowledge. You think that all Americans are crazy gun nuts or something? There are plenty of hunters and gun enthusiasts in Canada...
jgerlica Posted July 13, 2005 Posted July 13, 2005 It's not a polycarbonate bullet, but a sabot for a standard 55 grain jacketed soft point. The use of a discarding sabot would put a completely unmarred projectile downrange. No striations from the rifleing= no way to prove the projectile was fired from a specific weapon.
JaKiri Posted July 13, 2005 Posted July 13, 2005 They did tests with frozen H20 bullets which weren't able to reach their target bue to vaporization. So I was wondering if any other substances could be frozen fired out of a gun and do damage to a target then "Dissapear". Just use a damn repeating crossbow.
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted July 14, 2005 Posted July 14, 2005 Just use a damn repeating crossbow. Pulling the arrows out of the body might be a bit gruesome, mind you, but you'd have to, to leave no evidence.
jgerlica Posted July 14, 2005 Posted July 14, 2005 or have a bullet that explodes on contact You would still run the risk of leaving evidence, as the jacketing material would more than likely be left somewhat intact.
JaKiri Posted July 14, 2005 Posted July 14, 2005 Pulling the arrows out of the body might be a bit gruesome, mind you, but you'd have to, to leave no evidence. I think the fact that I was quoting someone talking about the problems of firing ice from guns might have suggested to you that I was talking about firing ice from crossbows.
6E30306200 Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 Maybe you can use a hollow bullet and fill it with a strong acid before shooting?
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