question Posted July 13, 2005 Posted July 13, 2005 Okey, i am confused about this matter. I have two different samples. One is 5 untreated/control samples (same kind) and the other is a 50 treated samples (same kind). I wonder what kind of statistic methods i can use to compare the results between them? I don't think that i can use ANOVA, since they need at least 3 different samples. Besides i can not use T-test or Z-test either, since the former needs both samples to be at a small number n<30, while the latter needs both samples to be large n>30. My samples is n=5 (controll samples) and n=50 (treated samples). Hope for inputs. Thank you!
Glider Posted July 14, 2005 Posted July 14, 2005 I'm a bit confused too. You say you have 2 samples, but your post also implies you have 55 samples (5 control 50 treated). What do you mean by 'sample'? Give a little more information regarding your experiment and we may be able to help.
question Posted July 17, 2005 Author Posted July 17, 2005 You can consider my problem as this: I have two groups. Group A gets treatment while gropu B is the controll where it does not get treatment. In A i have 50 samples/observations (n=50) and in B i have 5 samples/observations (n=5). So what kind of tests should i use to compare group A versus group B? Hope for your inputs and ideas! Thank you.
Glider Posted July 17, 2005 Posted July 17, 2005 Well, what you are testing for determines the test. If you are testing for a difference in means between samples, then you have to use a t-test. The difference in sample sizes won't influence what test you need to use, but as it is such a large difference, it will weaken your experiment. The greatest power is achieved when the sample sizes are equal. What are you measuring? i.e. are the data parametric or non-parametric?
question Posted July 17, 2005 Author Posted July 17, 2005 Well' date=' what you are testing [i']for[/i] determines the test. If you are testing for a difference in means between samples, then you have to use a t-test. The difference in sample sizes won't influence what test you need to use, but as it is such a large difference, it will weaken your experiment. The greatest power is achieved when the sample sizes are equal. What are you measuring? i.e. are the data parametric or non-parametric? Aww, someone adviced me to use U-test mann-Whitney, but i don't know if it is the best. What do you think about it? I am testing for the fold difference of some gene expressions between the treated samples (pituitary tumour samples) relative to the controll samples (pituitary normal samples). As i know the experiment must be non-parametric, since the populations don't have normal distributions. Or is it parametric?
Glider Posted July 18, 2005 Posted July 18, 2005 If the data are ordinal, the Mann-Whitney U test is the one to use (non-parametric test of difference between two independent samples). So what is your level of measure? If it is interval or ratio, you can use a t-test. If it is ordinal then use the Mann-Whitney U. If it is nominal, you will have to use a Chi Squared test.
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