geordief Posted June 13, 2018 Posted June 13, 2018 I have posted here before in the Homework section when I feel my question is very elementary and hope I can "do it again....... So... if we preclude relative motion between objects from the scenario could the geometry of spacetime be described as Euclidean **? So ,if objects are (can they be? Is there any point ?) treated as static vis a vis one another can they be modeled consistently in a Euclidean way or does one still have to take into account the different distances between objects? **by "Euclidean" I mean the geometry I learned at school;we never called it "Euclidean" ,it was just "geometry"
Markus Hanke Posted June 13, 2018 Posted June 13, 2018 45 minutes ago, geordief said: So... if we preclude relative motion between objects from the scenario could the geometry of spacetime be described as Euclidean **? No, it’s Minkowskian. That means that - within the metric - the time and space parts have opposite sign. This gives spacetime a type of hyperbolic geometry. In Euclidean geometry, all parts of the metric have the same sign. 47 minutes ago, geordief said: So ,if objects are (can they be? Is there any point ?) treated as static vis a vis one another can they be modeled consistently in a Euclidean way or does one still have to take into account the different distances between objects? No, this cannot be done in a consistent manner. In Euclidean geometry, for example, speeds add linearly - if you ride on a very fast rocket, and shine a torch light into the direction of motion, this would give you a superluminal ray of light. Obviously that is not what happens in the real world.
swansont Posted June 13, 2018 Posted June 13, 2018 8 hours ago, geordief said: **by "Euclidean" I mean the geometry I learned at school;we never called it "Euclidean" ,it was just "geometry" Euclidean geometry corresponds to Newtonian physics. As Markus has noted, what we have is Minkowskian, because relativity is the best description of spacetime.
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