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Dak-san:

iv noticed a few people her are learning/know a foreighn language, and it could be cool to have a forum where we could chat and improve our foreighn language. might also b useful as the chat would consievably have a scientifical slant,

 

Yeah that would be absolutely neat.

But in the mean time why not use the GD forumn and make a few posts in

there? e.g. One for German, one for Nihongo etc. Create the volume

and the specialised forum will come :).

 

Butsurigaku tanoshii desu ne.

 

Cheers.

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Dak-san:

 

 

Yeah that would be absolutely neat.

But in the mean time why not use the GD forumn and make a few posts in

there? e.g. One for German' date=' one for Nihongo etc. Create the volume

and the specialised forum will come :).

 

Butsurigaku tanoshii desu ne.

 

Cheers.[/quote']

 

I agree too. It would be fun to practice French there. We could also ask for help there from people who already know how to speak the language in question quite well.

 

there should be a pyrotechnics forum. AN incredible amount of science goes into pyrotechnics.

 

Pyrotechnics is part of chemistry and fits in quite well there.

 

I also would like to suggest a seperate forum for elementary science. There are a lot of high school students joining here now, and I think it would be a good idea for people around my age to be able to discuss and learn topics in the elementary science forum...where everything is not soooo complicated that it frightens most people away from Science Forums and Debate Network.

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I also would like to suggest a seperate forum for elementary science. There are a lot of high school students joining here now, and I think it would be a good idea for people around my age to be able to discuss and learn topics in the elementary science forum...where everything is not soooo complicated that it frightens most people away from Science Forums and Debate Network.

 

Seconded. Aside from the fact that you feel stupid posting at a highschool level around people who know more, I'm sure they get annoyed with seeing the basics so often (however, it might create a sort of community gap...?).

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we really need an organic chemistry forum. orgo is quite possibly the most relevant science in today's world

 

That would be great.

 

I also noticed that not many people post replies in the homework help forum, maybe the questions are too difficult, or people just don't want to spend a lot of time explaining to one person on a whole section of science. I think we could have a tutorial forum, basically anyone who feels confident can start a lesson (teaching others about a specific science topic) this way others can learn new things without resorting to textbooks. People could make comments or add new info to the lesson. By the end we might be able to have our own SFN encyclopedia, this will attract more people to do their projects, homework, research at SFN.

 

I mean science forums shouldn't be just about expressing thoughts and opinions, it's also about sharing knowledge with others. (I know we learn things through conversations, but it would be so easy to just go to the forum, find the topic that you want to learn, and read+study+chat+have your homework done without the desperate waiting in the homework help forum.)

 

We can even divide the forum into grades (from grade 7 to the end university), areas of science etc. This way no one would feel embarrassed when trying to ask/find out info on a lower science level.

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I was wondering if a chemical Buy/Sell/Trade section would be a nice addition to the site. I would definetly enjoy having a forum where I can search for any chemicals I need, at lower prices.

 

Anyone like this idea? If enough people like it, is there a chance it might happen?

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Chemi, Wikipedia.com.

 

Use your new knowledge well.

 

:rolleyes: big deal, I'm just saying the homework help forum could use a little adjustment. Besides the point is to get more ppl to SFN, not to Wikipedia.

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That would be great.

 

I also noticed that not many people post replies in the homework help forum' date=' maybe the questions are too difficult, or people just don't want to spend a lot of time explaining to one person on a whole section of science. I think we could have a [b']tutorial forum[/b], basically anyone who feels confident can start a lesson (teaching others about a specific science topic) this way others can learn new things without resorting to textbooks. People could make comments or add new info to the lesson. By the end we might be able to have our own SFN encyclopedia, this will attract more people to do their projects, homework, research at SFN.

 

I mean science forums shouldn't be just about expressing thoughts and opinions, it's also about sharing knowledge with others. (I know we learn things through conversations, but it would be so easy to just go to the forum, find the topic that you want to learn, and read+study+chat+have your homework done without the desperate waiting in the homework help forum.)

 

We can even divide the forum into grades (from grade 7 to the end university), areas of science etc. This way no one would feel embarrassed when trying to ask/find out info on a lower science level.

 

 

the only thing we have to worry about is how this whole thing will produce indolence among students. It's ok to have a second, more casual, reference concerning science but what happens if the forum becomes a subsitute for textbooks? pretty soon, the "teachers" will end up explaining every general detail that should of been known. I don't think most people on this forum can afford that kind of time on their hands. Im just skeptical of those who want to get their homework done as fast as possible. If they were out of the pic, then by all means, im for it.

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the only thing we have to worry about is how this whole thing will produce indolence among students. It's ok to have a second, more casual, reference concerning science but what happens if the forum becomes a subsitute for textbooks? pretty soon, the "teachers" will end up explaining every general detail that should of been known. I don't think most people on this forum can afford that kind of time on their hands. Im just skeptical of those who want to get their homework done as fast as possible. If they were out of the pic, then by all means, im for it.

 

I see what you mean lan418, but I think you missed my point. The reason why I think a tutorial forum would be better than the homework help forum is because it's not a one on one thing where one person has to spend hours explaining a whole section of science to one other person.

 

In the new forum, a person starts a thread on the topic they want to share (e.g. organic nomenclature), others can input more indepth info. So now if a person is having trouble with organic equations, he/she can come to SFN and read the lesson and learn. It's not like you are doing the homework for people where they ask a question and you answer it, it's more like an online SFN encyclopedia for students as a reference.

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I see what you mean lan418' date=' but I think you missed my point. The reason why I think a [b']tutorial forum [/b] would be better than the homework help forum is because it's not a one on one thing where one person has to spend hours explaining a whole section of science to one other person.

 

In the new forum, a person starts a thread on the topic they want to share (e.g. organic nomenclature), others can input more indepth info. So now if a person is having trouble with organic equations, he/she can come to SFN and read the lesson and learn. It's not like you are doing the homework for people where they ask a question and you answer it, it's more like an online SFN encyclopedia for students as a reference.

 

 

But why do that if you have online references? Chances are, what we post may not cover as much as other websites has already posted.

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But why do that if you have online references? Chances are, what we post may not cover as much as other websites has already posted.

Exactly, so we want to make SFN just as good as other websites. Get more people to come to SFN and learn things rather than other online references. I mean it's a science forum, so it should be academically challenging (sounds crazy but if we all help, it'll be a damn good encyclopedia)

 

 

this was from Dak's thread

but other than that, the only majour effort would be in marking the tests to see what areas they need to improve, but the tests could be constructed with ease-of-marking in mind (multiple-choice-questions for example).

 

I like your idea too, classroom/tutorial are both similar and could work. As for marking the tests, we could just scan our own tests/answer sheets, and attach them to the posts.

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What kind of thing comes under Biophysics??? Like looking at carbon structure of cells? But wouldn't that be Biochemistry? I dunno!

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What kind of thing comes under Biophysics??? Like looking at carbon structure of cells? But wouldn't that be Biochemistry? I dunno!

 

 

Biophysics - It means employ physicists to do the job of biology :D - Okay a joke (partly).

 

There are certain biologial processes such as protein foilding, protein aggregation and protein structural change occur via coorperative molecular packing and interactions within the complex biological molecule that do not involve in any chemical reaction, and thus not in the realm of biochemistry.

 

Biophycisicts sometimes require to have the knowledge of mathematical concept and theoretical modelling and only some knowledge of biology in order to carry out studies on topic as mentioned above.

Quite common they also use some intrumentations where results obtain are not as straight forward and need some mathematical analysis skill - such as X-ray crystallography, neutron scattering, protein NMR etc.

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Biophysics - It means employ physicists to do the job of biology - Okay a joke (partly).

 

It's not very accurate. The biophysicist do a job clearly more related to biochemistry than to biology. Biophysicists aren't trained to understand how physics act on living beings, they are trained to understand biology at the molecular/cellular level with a good knowledge of physics. Biophysics is the union of cell/molecular biology and physics. And it's very interesting.

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Biophysicists aren't trained to understand how physics act on living beings, they are trained to understand biology at the molecular/cellular level with a good knowledge of physics.

 

Precisely. The physics of living beings, at the organismal level, is called Biomechanics (what I do), and is basically all about muscles, joints, hydrostatic skeletons and the like. Most of it deals with how animals move, since that's generally more interesting than them standing still.

 

Mokele

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