AbnormallyHonest Posted July 30, 2018 Posted July 30, 2018 According to modern physics, we know that particles and light behave very differently under observation than they do unobserved. An unobserved field of energy is just that, and evenly distributed field of potential that requires a recorded measurement to “fix” it to a single position or a set path. Most pysiscists also agree that the disparity of energy vs. observation is disproportionately in favor of more energy than we are able to explain at this time. We call it dark energy. I believe, along with many others, that the Universe continues beyond our ability to observe. One possible explanation is the light hasn’t had enough time to reach our vicinity in space. In any case, so what about all the stuff that we can’t “measure and/or record?” If it’s unobservable out there than doesn’t that mean that it’s potentially in a lot of places. Doesn’t that also mean it’s potentially in places That are observable? If that were true wouldnt that create the disparity in the amount of energy that is a part of our observable univers as opposed to what we believe “should” be a part of our observable universe? If it exists there, then it potentially exists here as well, but it could potentially exist within and outside our universe if it is measured and recorded there too. That could cause it to exist here as a phantom energy like dark energy or zero point energy, but what would be the trade off?
swansont Posted July 30, 2018 Posted July 30, 2018 1 hour ago, AbnormallyHonest said: Most pysiscists also agree that the disparity of energy vs. observation is disproportionately in favor of more energy than we are able to explain at this time. We call it dark energy. What?
Strange Posted July 30, 2018 Posted July 30, 2018 1 hour ago, AbnormallyHonest said: According to modern physics, we know that particles and light behave very differently under observation than they do unobserved. No we don't. One could argue that we don't know anything about how they are behaving until they are observe, but it is quite reasonable to conclude that they continue to behave in the same way. After all, the moon doesn't disappear if you stop looking at it. 1 hour ago, AbnormallyHonest said: Most pysiscists also agree that the disparity of energy vs. observation is disproportionately in favor of more energy than we are able to explain at this time. Citation needed. 1 hour ago, AbnormallyHonest said: We call it dark energy. One of the problems with dark energy is that an easy explanation is the quantum vacuum energy, but this is many orders of magnitude too large, not too small. 1 hour ago, AbnormallyHonest said: I believe, along with many others, that the Universe continues beyond our ability to observe. One possible explanation is the light hasn’t had enough time to reach our vicinity in space. Well, duh. It is the only explanation. 1 hour ago, AbnormallyHonest said: In any case, so what about all the stuff that we can’t “measure and/or record?” If it’s unobservable out there than doesn’t that mean that it’s potentially in a lot of places. Doesn’t that also mean it’s potentially in places That are observable? Well, no. If it was in places that were observable, then it would be in the observable universe and we could observe it. The whole point about the universe beyond the observable universe is that we can't observe it (because it is too far away and light cannot reach us from there). And the amount of dark energy is known from observation. And it is known to be in the observable universe. So you are not making very much (or any) sense.
beecee Posted July 30, 2018 Posted July 30, 2018 3 hours ago, AbnormallyHonest said: According to modern physics, we know that particles and light behave very differently under observation than they do unobserved. An unobserved field of energy is just that, and evenly distributed field of potential that requires a recorded measurement to “fix” it to a single position or a set path. It seems to me that you are "trying" to project knowledge re Heisenburg's Uncertainty Principle. To help in your terrible askew knowledge I give you.....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle Quote Most pysiscists also agree that the disparity of energy vs. observation is disproportionately in favor of more energy than we are able to explain at this time. We call it dark energy. ???? DE is simply an unknown factor to account for the acceleration in the expansion of the universe/spacetime. Quote I believe, along with many others, that the Universe continues beyond our ability to observe. One possible explanation is the light hasn’t had enough time to reach our vicinity in space. The "observable universe" is that spherical universe that surrounds any observer, anywhere in the universe, and is governed by the speed of light and the observed expansion. Anything beyond anyone's observable universe is, you guessed it, unobservable. Quote In any case, so what about all the stuff that we can’t “measure and/or record?” If it’s unobservable out there than doesn’t that mean that it’s potentially in a lot of places. Doesn’t that also mean it’s potentially in places That are observable? If that were true wouldnt that create the disparity in the amount of energy that is a part of our observable univers as opposed to what we believe “should” be a part of our observable universe? Any "stuff" beyond anyone's observable universe is unobservable. No great mystery, or anomaly or attempt at insinuating any mystery or contradiction, simply common sense based on current observational cosmology.. Quote If it exists there, then it potentially exists here as well, but it could potentially exist within and outside our universe if it is measured and recorded there too. That could cause it to exist here as a phantom energy like dark energy or zero point energy, but what would be the trade off? Gibberish.
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