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On 8/8/2018 at 6:54 AM, jawediqbal said:

yes, there is a God, he created human, earth, sky, Moon, sun, stars, aer & everything...
these things cannot be created itself. 
Do you think it created by accidentally? 
 

You clearly haven't read this thread or any relating threads on this forum. There is no scientific evidence for this god you speak of. It is quite well understood how the earth, moon and stars have formed. Even life - we don't have all of the gaps in our knowledge filled - but those gaps are getting smaller.

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12 minutes ago, jawediqbal said:

Can science prove that God does not exist?

Only as far as it can't prove unicorns, fairies or dragons don't exist either.  It doesn't have to - there is absolutely no evidence for it so why should anyone believe it?  

1 minute ago, jawediqbal said:

the existence of a thing prove of it's creator,

No it doesn't. 

 

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On 8/8/2018 at 6:54 AM, jawediqbal said:

yes, there is a God, he created human, earth, sky, Moon, sun, stars, aer & everything...

You are free to believe that.

But I bet you still appreciate the fact that science works - for example modern medicine saving lives, technology that allows you to engage in this discussion, etc. Your god doesn't do those things. We do.

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these things cannot be created itself. 

Oddly enough, it turns out they can.

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Do you think it created by accidentally? 

Don't be silly. Why would anyone think that?

On 8/8/2018 at 7:13 AM, jawediqbal said:

Can science prove that God does not exist?

Of course not. Science deals with things that behave in a consistent manner and that are measurable and testable. That doesn't apply to your god, so science has nothing to say about it.

On the other hand, the fact there is no evidence your god exists means it is reasonable to be doubtful.

On 8/8/2018 at 7:25 AM, jawediqbal said:

the existence of a thing prove of it's creator,

Only if you already believe in that creator. Otherwise it is not proof of that.

On 8/8/2018 at 7:40 AM, jawediqbal said:

science can't prove that God exists,  it is science fault,

Not at all. It is irrelevant to science. I'm not even sure why you are discussing this on a science forum. It is like discussing cooking on a football forum.

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1 minute ago, jawediqbal said:

science can't prove that God exists,  it is science fault,

It can prove the bible is plain wrong and a work of fiction.  If the bible is your evidence for god then it has been debunked.

 

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I once saw a cartoon where the characters went to a different earth timeline in which Christianity never existed.(this was the only difference)

Ofc it's a joke but even though they were also in the 21'st century, they had flying cars and all those technological advancements from sci-fi movies (as the dark age never occurred there). After seeing such blind and childish behaviour from some members I really believe that this scenario isn't off and looking forward we should slowly let go of superstitions and other immature, illogical concepts or keep them separate from science. 

Saying stuff like science is at fault and relaying this idea via preaching in a church a laptop/phone/computer connected to faith internet on a Christian  science forum just seems hypocritical...

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On 8/8/2018 at 6:54 AM, jawediqbal said:

yes, there is a God, he created human, earth, sky, Moon, sun, stars, aer & everything...
these things cannot be created itself. 
Do you think it created by accidentally? 
 

And who created this god? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4a7F6dOdlc

And I noticed you posted the above in a positive manner only 9 hours ago, after joining this forum only 11 hours ago [welcome] .....Why with an obvious religious and god fearing persona, did you chose to join a science forum where you would obviously be aware that other explanations of how the stars, planets and us came to be? Do you see science as a threat to your ancient long held beliefs?

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On 8/8/2018 at 6:54 AM, jawediqbal said:

yes, there is a God, he created human, earth, sky, Moon, sun, stars, aer & everything...
these things cannot be created itself. 
Do you think it created by accidentally? 
 

Your use of the word "created" shows that you have already come to a conclusion. I would prefer we call it reality and yes these things you list "human, earth, sky, Moon, sun, stars, aer & everything...
these things cannot be created itself. "

Can and have come into existence without intelligent intervention, we know how these things came into existence and to say they came into existence accidentally ignores reality. While random events are part of our reality the word "created" again poisons the well by assuming a creator.

This is why creator is the wrong word to use. 

"The universe was "created" by a brobdingnagian creature that consumes dark matter and excretes universes and has no idea it even exists much less that it's fecal matter turns into universes." 

Until you can show evidence of a creator my idea is just as good as yours and is in fact more likely because no intelligence is required...

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