quiet Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 (edited) To describe the device more easily, the drawing shows the plates as if they were transparent. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To avoid complications, let's suppose ideal conditions. - Insulating cylindrical tube. - Rigid plates of conductive metal, with negligible mass. To simplify, we will assume that the mass of each plate is equal to zero. - Equal and opposite charges in the plates. - The only thing that keeps the plates attached to the ends of the tube is the electric force of the capacitor. - Both ends of the tube are sealed by the plates. - An ideal gas has been injected into the tube, until it reaches the pressure that the plates can withstand. That pressure depends only on the electric force. - Except for the inside of the tube, where there is gas, the rest of the device is in a vacuum. - The device is at rest with respect to the reference system. - Subsequently, the charge of the positive plate is neutralized by a negative charge of the same absolute value. The charge of the negative plate is not affected and remains constant. - At the instant of neutralization, the electric force disappears in the neutralized plate. When does it disappear on the other plate? Does it happen strictly at the same instant or in a different one? Edited September 16, 2018 by quiet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiot Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 So how is the positive charge applied to one plate and how is it then removed 'instantaneously' ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, quiet said: At the instant of neutralization, the electric force disappears in the neutralized plate. When does it disappear on the other plate? Does it happen strictly at the same instant or in a different one? This seems like an incredibly complicated setup to ask a simple question. Anyway, the answer is that the change will propagate at the speed of light (or less). Edited September 17, 2018 by Strange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiot Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 13 hours ago, studiot said: So how is the positive charge applied to one plate and how is it then removed 'instantaneously' ? I asked this because I don't agree that the change can happen either instantaneously, or at the speed of light. But I also think that the speed of change is not constant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiet Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 I want to thank the people who come to the thread. Has pointed out strange that it is not an easy problem. I hope that makes it interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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