Z10 Posted November 8, 2018 Posted November 8, 2018 Hello, there are two circles in nature a real circle well defined in mathematics. And an imaginary circle in our head that can not be defined.
wtf Posted November 8, 2018 Posted November 8, 2018 (edited) There is no circle in nature. There is only one circle, the idealized, abstract one in our minds. Which is represented by the mathematical circle, the set of complex numbers of modulus 1. Or if you prefer, the set of points in the Euclidean plane a distance of exactly 1 from the origin. Ah, I reread what you said. That while I said the mathematical circle represents the abstract idea of a circle; you are calling these two separate things. I believe you are right. It's an assumption that the math circle represents the idea of a circle. But that's not an actual fact, only an assumption. Just as it's an assumption that the real number line may be identified with the line of geometry. Is that what you are saying? If so I agree. Edited November 8, 2018 by wtf
Z10 Posted November 8, 2018 Author Posted November 8, 2018 I do not believe that the minimum distance between two points is a straight line as the math say because in my head the shortest distance between two points is not a straight line but an imaginary circle with a zero distance.
Strange Posted November 8, 2018 Posted November 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Z10 said: I do not believe that the minimum distance between two points is a straight line as the math say because in my head the shortest distance between two points is not a straight line but an imaginary circle with a zero distance. So the shortest distance between London and Paris is a circle? That doesn't make much sense.
Z10 Posted November 8, 2018 Author Posted November 8, 2018 (edited) I do not think that the minimum distance between two points is a straight line. in my head the minimum distance between two points is an imaginary circle with zero distance. Edited November 8, 2018 by Z10
Strange Posted November 8, 2018 Posted November 8, 2018 Although, thinking about it, the shortest distance between two points on the surface of the Earth is a great circle, but I suspect that is not what you are thinking of. Just now, Z10 said: I do not think that the minimum distance between two points is a straight line. in my head the minimum distance between two points is an imaginary circle with zero distance. So the shortest distance between London and Paris is an imaginary circle?
Z10 Posted November 8, 2018 Author Posted November 8, 2018 (edited) when we have defined the imaginary number we defined an impossibility i2 = -1 I want to define in the same way an impossible circle to do is that reduces the distance between points in zero. Edited November 8, 2018 by Z10
Strange Posted November 8, 2018 Posted November 8, 2018 16 minutes ago, Z10 said: when we have defined the imaginary number we defined an impossibility i2 = -1 i2 = -1 is not an impossibility. 16 minutes ago, Z10 said: I want to define in the same way an impossible circle to do is that reduces the distance between points in zero. How are you going to do that?
Z10 Posted November 8, 2018 Author Posted November 8, 2018 can not find a real with i2 = -1 so we invented i. and their use has reduced the complexity of the problems. so if it defines an imaginary circle that connects the points by a null distance it can help us to solve complex problems.
Strange Posted November 8, 2018 Posted November 8, 2018 12 minutes ago, Z10 said: so if it defines an imaginary circle that connects the points by a null distance it can help us to solve complex problems. And how are you going to do this?
Z10 Posted November 8, 2018 Author Posted November 8, 2018 (edited) I do not know. maybe our imaginary circle is the circle that can be transformed into a square. this circle does not exist then maybe it is an imaginary circle. Edited November 8, 2018 by Z10
swansont Posted November 8, 2018 Posted November 8, 2018 ! Moderator Note Your posts thus far are somewhat incoherent, and lacking in rigor and focus. You need to make more sense, and be discussing topics relevant to this site.
Z10 Posted November 8, 2018 Author Posted November 8, 2018 I am sorry . I do not know how to speak english well to explain the meaning
Strange Posted November 8, 2018 Posted November 8, 2018 26 minutes ago, Z10 said: I am sorry . I do not know how to speak english well to explain the meaning Perhaps you should find a forum in your native language.
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