Best places in space too place computers?

[Question about supercomput]

I was curious what would be the best place for a civilisation with easy space travel too put a supercomputer. I was thinking about time dilation and decided if massive resources were put into a computer you would want too abuse time dilation so the computer spends more time programming.

[Strange]

Even if you put a computer in orbit, the difference in speed due to time dilation is insignificant. If we take the example of GPS satellites: "The combination of these two relativitic effects means that the clocks on-board each satellite should tick faster than identical clocks on the ground by about 38 microseconds per day"

http://www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu/~pogge/Ast162/Unit5/gps.html

You would also have trouble with power and heat dissipation. 

[John Cuthber]

And there's the overhead of sending data to and from the computer.

[Janus]

Even if you were to remove your computer to a point as far from any mass as possible, it would only gain ~ 2/100 of a sec of computing time per year as compared to being on the surface of the Earth.  You would waste much, much much more time communicating with it due to signal delay.  It just isn't a viable idea.  While there are places in the universe where time runs much slower than it does on the Earth ( which is the opposite of what you would want), there is no place where time runs significantly faster.

[Question about supercomput]

Just now, Janus said:

Even if you were to remove your computer to a point as far from any mass as possible, it would only gain ~ 2/100 of a sec of computing time per year as compared to being on the surface of the Earth.  You would waste much, much much more time communicating with it due to signal delay.  It just isn't a viable idea.  While there are places in the universe where time runs much slower than it does on the Earth ( which is the opposite of what you would want), there is no place where time runs significantly faster.

I meant "spend" time with the view of time as a resource, should have thought more about my wording. So i meant a place with time passing slowly.  Because if you had time pass twice(just example number) as slow somewhere your computer would achieve twice as much in your wait time wouldn't  it? So i think time passing slowly for the computer would be better, unless im confused.

[dimreepr]

1 minute ago, Question about supercomput said:

unless im confused.

 you are...

[Strange]

4 minutes ago, Question about supercomput said:

I meant "spend" time with the view of time as a resource, should have thought more about my wording. So i meant a place with time passing slowly.  Because if you had time pass twice(just example number) as slow somewhere your computer would achieve twice as much in your wait time wouldn't  it? So i think time passing slowly for the computer would be better, unless im confused.

The best time dilation you can possibly achieve is insignificant, as has been explained twice.

[Janus]

1 minute ago, Question about supercomput said:

I meant "spend" time with the view of time as a resource, should have thought more about my wording. So i meant a place with time passing slowly.  Because if you had time pass twice(just example number) as slow somewhere your computer would achieve twice as much in your wait time wouldn't  it? So i think time passing slowly for the computer would be better, unless im confused.

Yes, you are confused.  If I have a computer that does 1 trillion calculations per sec. and put it somewhere where time runs 1/2 as fast as where I am, then, for me that the computer only performs at 500 billion calculations per sec.  I will have doubled my wait time, not halved it.

[Strange]

Ah, I missed the fact that was the wrong way round!

[Question about supercomput]

7 minutes ago, Janus said:

Yes, you are confused.  If I have a computer that does 1 trillion calculations per sec. and put it somewhere where time runs 1/2 as fast as where I am, then, for me that the computer only performs at 500 billion calculations per sec.  I will have doubled my wait time, not halved it.

oh i meant the computer experiencing time like someone aging twice as much as a someone on earth. Just read online a blackhole could theoretically make use of time dilation for a computer. Sorry didnt think i would find an answer with searching more.

Edited November 11, 2018 by Question about supercomput

[Strange]

12 minutes ago, Question about supercomput said:

Just read online a blackhole could theoretically make use of time dilation for a computer.

Can you post a link to that because it seems wrong.

Time dilation means that we would see someone near a black hole age more slowly, their clock running more slowly and their computer executing instructions more slowly.

[Question about supercomput]

Yeah ok https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/3wbvyy/is_there_any_way_because_of_time_dilation_to_get/

When i copy and paste the specific post i just get a link to the page so you will have too scroll for it.

Edited November 11, 2018 by Question about supercomput

[Sensei]

If you want supercomputer/computer/microcomputer/smartphone to process the more data at the same time you should do:

1) Optimize your algorithm.

2) Review compiler assembler output to check what has been generated. e.g. if you won't turn on Floating Model: Fast in Visual Studio, floating point operations can be utterly tragic slow. Default compiler option is Precise. Not all programmers (especially people who don't know assembler) are aware of what this option is doing (therefor they don't switch it every time they're making new Visual Studio C/C++ project). This shows how important is programmer's intelligence, knowledge and competence.

3) Replace Java code by C/C++ (the most time consuming tasks), if it's not enough replace it by assembler.

4) Use gfx cards (OpenCL and CUDA) instead of CPU. Now they have 1024+ cores. And you can buy motherboards which allow couple such cards to be inserted in them at the same time.

etc. etc.

 

Edited November 11, 2018 by Sensei

[Endy0816]

@OP:

You could reverse this logic and apply it to yourself instead to good effect.

Edited November 11, 2018 by Endy0816

[Strange]

1 hour ago, Question about supercomput said:

Yeah ok https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/3wbvyy/is_there_any_way_because_of_time_dilation_to_get/

When i copy and paste the specific post i just get a link to the page so you will have too scroll for it.

Well, I skimmed through that. 

One person suggests putting the computer in space and then you go near a black hole for a while. That would work. So you could come back a year later and the computer will have done 100 years of computation. That's OK except everyone you know will be dead.

Another says you can put the computer near a black hole, which is just wrong.

One talks about hyper computation using GR. I am not familiar with this as a concept but as he points out that the results would only be available to someone inside the black hole, it isn't very useful. He also says that this probably means that these solutions to GR are not realistic.