IsaacAsimov Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I was reading about muon-catalyzed cold fusion, and I thought if muons don't work in cold fusion maybe some other negative subatomic particles would. Muons decay after 2.2 x 10 -6 s, which is too short for cold fusion. Kaons (K-): Charge-parity violation, which generates the matter-antimatter asymmetry of the universe, was discovered in the kaon system in 1964. The lifetime of the kaon is 1.238 x 10 -8 s, too short for cold fusion. Tau lepton: Has a lifetime of 2.9 x 10 -13 s, too short to be considered for cold fusion. We have discovered 64 events of the form e+ + e- > e+- + muon-+ + at least 2 undetected particles for which we have no conventional explanation. In total, the tau lepton will decay hadronically approximately 64.79% of the time. These particles decay in too short a time. There may be some other negatively charged subatomic particles that will decay in a longer time and can substitute for the electron to cause cold fusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavelcherepan Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 hour ago, IsaacAsimov said: Muons decay after 2.2 x 10 -6 s, which is too short for cold fusion. But as far as I know it does work with muons. The other question is that it's not very economical, but this is due to other reasons in addition to muons decaying such as needing to produced muons to be used in reaction and also muons sticking to resultant nucleus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 And i thought Isaac Asimov was dead... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacAsimov Posted November 15, 2018 Author Share Posted November 15, 2018 17 hours ago, pavelcherepan said: But as far as I know it does work with muons. The other question is that it's not very economical, but this is due to other reasons in addition to muons decaying such as needing to produced muons to be used in reaction and also muons sticking to resultant nucleus. How about using a negative ion in place of the electron? Would that work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 19 hours ago, IsaacAsimov said: We have discovered 64 events of the form e+ + e- > e+- + muon-+ + at least 2 undetected particles for which we have no conventional explanation. Who is "we"? And where is this reported? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacAsimov Posted November 15, 2018 Author Share Posted November 15, 2018 By "we", I mean the scientific community. I got all of my facts from Wikipedia.org. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 24 minutes ago, IsaacAsimov said: By "we", I mean the scientific community. I got all of my facts from Wikipedia.org. Can you provide a slightly more specific reference. There are thousands of pages on Wikipedia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 57 minutes ago, IsaacAsimov said: How about using a negative ion in place of the electron? Would that work? I was under the impression that the muon's role was to make the hydrogen atom very small, so the protons get close to each other without having to deal (or deal as much) with the Coulomb barrier. Using a negative ion doesn't fill that role. That just means you have a molecule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacAsimov Posted November 15, 2018 Author Share Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) 21 hours ago, pavelcherepan said: But as far as I know it does work with muons. The other question is that it's not very economical, but this is due to other reasons in addition to muons decaying such as needing to produced muons to be used in reaction and also muons sticking to resultant nucleus. Thank you for your help. Did you know that you look almost like Stan Laurel of the Laurel and Hardy famous comedy duo? 2 hours ago, Strange said: Can you provide a slightly more specific reference. There are thousands of pages on Wikipedia. Just look up specific subatomic particles, for instance muon, kaon, tau lepton. Edited November 15, 2018 by IsaacAsimov slight modification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, IsaacAsimov said: Just look up specific subatomic particles, for instance muon, kaon, tau lepton. No. That's not how this works. Please provide a reference to support your claim that: Quote We have discovered 64 events of the form e+ + e- > e+- + muon-+ + at least 2 undetected particles for which we have no conventional explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacAsimov Posted November 15, 2018 Author Share Posted November 15, 2018 Goto Wikipedia.org, then search for "tau lepton". Look under History, and there it is. I hope this satisfies you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 22 minutes ago, IsaacAsimov said: I hope this satisfies you. Not at all. Post a link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavelcherepan Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 4 hours ago, IsaacAsimov said: Thank you for your help. Did you know that you look almost like Stan Laurel of the Laurel and Hardy famous comedy duo? Well, that's not me, this is Jeremy Clarkson of Top Gear/Grand Tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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