Another split from How do 4 fundamental interactions occur in nature naturally?

[Rajiv Naik]

On 19/08/2018 at 10:40 PM, Achilles said:

So for magnetism we have earths magnetic field, that occurs naturally

Electricity we have lightning

We have electromagnetic waves come from the sun

That covers electromagnetism I think

What about the other 3 fundamental interaction of nature

according  to my reading-

why electricity is treated independently?- its  part of electromagnetism.

electrons  are basically  waves with perticular energy-

there is only one electron wave and what observed as an individual electron is local stationary particle of the electron wave field .

 

its like when we measure average tempature of room as X, its an average of many particles in room with different temperatures x1, x2,x3.... etc.

 

gluons are the forces which hold all elementary particles togather.

 

decay  should involve chaos and thermodynamics  .  everything ultimately evaporates as a radiation. 

its suspected that gravity may be due to gluons - but fundamentaly is a force created by spin. its propertional to product  of masses involved and inversely proportional to square ofdistance between the masses. Clearly indicating that its a force which is related to angular momentum of Mass- or a spin.

 

therefore I feel that its a centrifugal force.

[studiot]

2 hours ago, Rajiv Naik said:

therefore I feel that its a centrifugal force.

Centrifugal forces are a mathematical trick or device to put calculation in a more convienient form.

They are not 'real' forces.

The trick involves transformation of the analysis of a particular situation from a dynamic one to  a static equilibrium one.

As with all such transformations, at the end of the process, the cost of the easier mathematics is the fact you have to perform the reverse transformation.

There are other such imaginary forces and other types of transformation.

Edited November 24, 2018 by studiot

[Strange]

2 hours ago, Rajiv Naik said:

its suspected that gravity may be due to gluons

Suspected by who? Please provide a reference. 

2 hours ago, Rajiv Naik said:

but fundamentaly is a force created by spin. its propertional to product  of masses involved and inversely proportional to square ofdistance between the masses. Clearly indicating that its a force which is related to angular momentum of Mass- or a spin.

As spin does not appear in that equation it is obviously not related. 

[swansont]

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Moderator Note

Rajiv Naik, please stop posting your assertions in the main physics forums. You are not relaying accepted physics, and responses must be based on mainstream science. Posting pet theories in mainstream discussion is considered thread hijacking.

If you think you are using accepted physics, I'm sorry to say that you are doing a very poor job. You should be asking questions to correct your knowledge, rather than trying to provide answers.

 

 

5 hours ago, Rajiv Naik said:

 its like when we measure average tempature of room as X, its an average of many particles in room with different temperatures x1, x2,x3.... etc.

There is no temperature of a single particle. Temperature is defined only for a group of particles.

 

5 hours ago, Rajiv Naik said:

gluons are the forces which hold all elementary particles togather.

Only the ones subject to the strong interaction.

 

5 hours ago, Rajiv Naik said:

its suspected that gravity may be due to gluons - but fundamentaly is a force created by spin. its propertional to product  of masses involved and inversely proportional to square ofdistance between the masses. Clearly indicating that its a force which is related to angular momentum of Mass- or a spin.

 

therefore I feel that its a centrifugal force.

Uh, no.

But if you feel that this is so, you must present a testable model that shows it to be so, or some other sort of evidence. Not just hand-wavy assertions, and not based on what you feel is the case. This is supposed to be science.