Vexen Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 Do moderators also engage in discussion on this forum?
iNow Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 Do you have eyes? Are you mentally handicapped in some way that we should know about? Do you realize many questions can easily be answered without posting about them?
Vexen Posted March 5, 2019 Author Posted March 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, iNow said: Do you have eyes? Are you mentally handicapped in some way that we should know about? Do you realize many questions can easily be answered without posting about them? I do have eyes. I was diagnosed with schizophrenia. I ask because I don't know.
StringJunky Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) Yes, they do but don't, under normal circumstances, moderate those they are involved in. I think most of them want to chat and answer too, rather than moderate. Edited March 5, 2019 by StringJunky 1
iNow Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 16 minutes ago, Vexen said: I was diagnosed with schizophrenia. And why should we know about that?
Vexen Posted March 5, 2019 Author Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, iNow said: And why should we know about that? You asked if I was mentally handicapped. Edited March 5, 2019 by Vexen
Strange Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 25 minutes ago, StringJunky said: Yes, they do but don't, under normal circumstances, moderate those they are involved in. I think most of them want to chat and answer too, rather than moderate. Nailed it. Especially the second sentence! 38 minutes ago, Vexen said: Do moderators also engage in discussion on this forum? Yes. If you only use a phone you can’t see the “Moderator” label (only just noticed that).
iNow Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, Vexen said: You asked if I was mentally handicapped. ...in some way that we should know about. So, you shared, and I asked, why should we know about that?
StringJunky Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, iNow said: ...in some way that we should know about. So, you shared, and I asked, why should we know about that? I'll answer for him: as a means to possibly explain some of his socially unconventional behaviour... instead of letting us think he's being deliberately aggravating.
Vexen Posted March 5, 2019 Author Posted March 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, iNow said: ...in some way that we should know about. So, you shared, and I asked, why should we know about that? Schizophrenics sometimes do irrational things.
iNow Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 Just now, Vexen said: Schizophrenics sometimes do irrational things. Such as?
Vexen Posted March 5, 2019 Author Posted March 5, 2019 1 minute ago, iNow said: Such as? Post socially inappropriate threads.
Strange Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 1 minute ago, iNow said: Such as? You need to ask? *raises eyebrows*
iNow Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Vexen said: Post socially inappropriate threads. What do you consider socially inappropriate?
Vexen Posted March 5, 2019 Author Posted March 5, 2019 Just now, iNow said: What do you consider socially inappropriate? Posting about suicide in ethics section.
Phi for All Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, Vexen said: Posting about suicide in ethics section. One of the things we're really strict about here is not trying to doctor anyone. We refer questions like these to professionals, because we care and we trust in their expertise. It's not only an ethical policy, but a legal one as well. Liability is an issue here. Currently, we're having a staff discussion about how you're forcing our hand wrt your status on the site. It looks like we have to choose between you and the owner's policies. You seem to be sort of flipping out here, and pushing hard against some kind of perceived obstacles. I think you need to take a break, how about you?
swansont Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 21 hours ago, Vexen said: Posting about suicide in ethics section. It was more than that. It was asking when you should commit suicide, which has a whole host of connotations that come with it. Yes we engage in discussion. Normally, we do not moderate in threads where we are discussing things. That rule is relaxed in the Speculations section, because often conversation is required to tease out whether that sections rules are being followed. As StringJunky has mused and Strange has confirmed, mods generally would prefer to discuss than moderate. Sometimes we will stay out of a conversation where we might like to be a participant, because we see from prior experience that moderation will be required.
Vexen Posted March 6, 2019 Author Posted March 6, 2019 22 hours ago, Phi for All said: One of the things we're really strict about here is not trying to doctor anyone. We refer questions like these to professionals, because we care and we trust in their expertise. It's not only an ethical policy, but a legal one as well. Liability is an issue here. Currently, we're having a staff discussion about how you're forcing our hand wrt your status on the site. It looks like we have to choose between you and the owner's policies. You seem to be sort of flipping out here, and pushing hard against some kind of perceived obstacles. I think you need to take a break, how about you? Isn't suicide an ethical question? I know I ask too many questions but I'm looking for answers. How long of a break do you think I need?
Phi for All Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Vexen said: Isn't suicide an ethical question? I know I ask too many questions but I'm looking for answers. How long of a break do you think I need? The way you talk about it makes us fear that what we say might be taken the wrong way. You aren't clinical in your discussions, you're very, very personal. It would be unethical for us to discuss suicide with you in that light. As we've stated here and elsewhere, we can talk about anything until it becomes part of an online diagnosis, then our policy is to do what the site's owners demand, adn refer you to a professional. I'd hoped you could see the reason behind that.
Vexen Posted March 6, 2019 Author Posted March 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Phi for All said: The way you talk about it makes us fear that what we say might be taken the wrong way. You aren't clinical in your discussions, you're very, very personal. It would be unethical for us to discuss suicide with you in that light. As we've stated here and elsewhere, we can talk about anything until it becomes part of an online diagnosis, then our policy is to do what the site's owners demand, adn refer you to a professional. I'd hoped you could see the reason behind that. Yes I see your point. 2
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