awaterpon Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 (edited) My machine solve several stage clockwork by avoiding connecting gears directly , however by discharging the energy in steps. And the clockwork has very high ratios in this picture 5 gears with spiral springs fixed to them gear #1 with no spring instead weight is used , gear #2 has the strongest spring , spring in gear #3 is weaker spring #4 is the weakest and that according to gear ratio gear #5 has no spring it is fixed to a generator How the machine works: group number 6 consisted of gear #2 and gear #4 , it moves from side to side continuously to transfer energy between the gears.When the group No (6) moves from right to left rod #8 will release gear #1 and at the same time small gear #2 will touch big gear #1, gear #1 will transfer some of its energy to weaker spring in gear #2, also at the same time small gear #4 will touch big gear #3, so that gear #3 will transfer some of its energy to weaker spring in gear #4. The opposite happens when the group No (6) moves from left to right: 1) Rod #8 stops gear #1 to save energy. 2) Big gear #2 will touch small gear #3 to transfer some energy to it and to be stored. 3) Big gear #4 will touch small gear #5 to transfer its energy . In this picture gear 9 rotates clockwise by another spring. It rotates and stops for a while enabling energy storage and release on the gears in color. gear 9 could be very small to suit gears' teeth length or instead of being divided into two halves it could be divided into thirds , quarters, sixths ,etc to suit gears' teeth length The machine culd store energy for hours if the ratio is high .Energy could be stored in form of weight inside holes, trains on inclined planes or carbon nano-tube springs. It could solve climate change problem by storing large-scale energy of solar panels. I want someone to partner with me and share royalities. Edited April 6, 2019 by awaterpon
Endy0816 Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 (edited) I'm afraid there are already similar designs based on gravity out there. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_storage#Gravitational_potential_energy_storage_with_solid_masses I'm not certain you are using your gears as reduction gears, but those are a common element. Edited April 6, 2019 by Endy0816
awaterpon Posted April 6, 2019 Author Posted April 6, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Endy0816 said: I'm afraid there are already similar designs based on gravity out there. Other designs needs very long distances hard to be practical and solve climate change problem my idea of high ratio clockwork will reduce distance much Edited April 6, 2019 by awaterpon
swansont Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 5 hours ago, awaterpon said: The machine culd store energy for hours if the ratio is high . How much energy?
awaterpon Posted April 6, 2019 Author Posted April 6, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, swansont said: How much energy? Any amount.Depends on the mass and hole depth. Edited April 6, 2019 by awaterpon
Intrigued Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 22 minutes ago, awaterpon said: Any amount.Depends on the mass and hole depth. Perhaps you could give some concrete examples, together with an estimate of efficiency and what you have based this on. Thank you.
Sensei Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 28 minutes ago, awaterpon said: Any amount.Depends on the mass and hole depth. @swansont asked valid question to give you hint what you should do the first: make calculations... Potential energy of 1000 kg object, which is moving back and forth in 1000 m deep tunnel will be E=mgh = 1000 * 9.81 * 1000 = 9.81 MJ. Typical incandescent lightbulb with 100 W, will use 9.81 MJ in 27 hours (assuming unrealistic 100% efficiency).. What is cost of 1000 kg of piece of Iron? What is cost of digging 1000 meters (1 km!) hole with reinforcement? What you're here proposing has been done not once using double large tanks of water, one at higher elevation, second one at lower elevation, upper one filled periodically when energy price is low (or negative), and released when there is demand for energy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumped-storage_hydroelectricity I must say, it's pretty much big investment to build such facility.. 51 minutes ago, awaterpon said: Any amount.Depends on the mass and hole depth. ..you are limited by mechanical properties of rope.. ..tunnel must be waterproof.. pumping underground water or rain water would ruin entire business model.. Mines are suffering huge loses due to underground water which must be all the time pumped out of them.
swansont Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 1 hour ago, awaterpon said: Any amount.Depends on the mass and hole depth. I rather doubt that “any amount” is viable. If you’re pushing this as a reasonable solution, you need to be able to answer this question.
Strange Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 5 hours ago, awaterpon said: Other designs needs very long distances hard to be practical and solve climate change problem my idea of high ratio clockwork will reduce distance much Can you demonstrate that this is more efficient than, for example, pumping water up a hill to a reservoir and then using it to generate hydroelectric power? Can you show that your concept can be scaled up to generate gigawatts of power?
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