Genesis 1&2 The Beginning - Based on the Scripture

[2Pillars]

Based on the Scripture:

Energy doesn't appear physically except when it's changed into physical matter. It took scientists thousands of years before Albert Einstein confirmed God's Holy Word with his theory of relativity.

Hbr 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds (multiverse) were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

Einstein learned the SAME thing. He learned that matter and energy were the same. In order to make matter, it takes energy to produce matter in physical form. Then, you will have things which are seen, but made from things which do not appear to the eye.

Then WHERE did the energy to make 3 Universes or Multiverse come from, you might ask. Below is the answer for it tells us where God lives:

1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

Can any one here who believe that Genesis is only figurative and not LITERAL -- tells us HOW Moses or other Ancient men, who lived thousands of years before science, authored the the Book of Genesis... and seemingly knew the Theory of Relativity?  Of course not. It took men thousands of years before Albert Einstein discovered that Scientific Fact.

Would that means, God is the real Author behind the Book of Genesis and not some Ancient men.... of course!

Our God is an Awesome God.

[pzkpfw]

Retrospectively interpreting vague writings to fit later knowledge.

Weak.

Wake me up when your "god" gets a cellphone and learns to communicate better than with an oil stain that looks like St. Barnabus, or burnt cheese on toast.

 

[2Pillars]

The Invisible Almighty God Father first CREATED the physical elements needed in order for his Son to Physically make/form the heavens and the earth with his own hands. In the context of Genesis 1:1-2, I see the narrative as saying:

In the beginning God Created the heaven (Hebrew - Air) and the Earth (Hebrew -Ground). And the Earth (Ground) was without form, (Dust) and void; (Empty) and darkness was upon the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

The 3 elements necessary for all physical form are shown... Air, Dust, and Water. Everything which is physical is composed of these 3 elements. The text is correct in showing that the water was not directly created, or spoken into being, because it consists of elements of the Air or Atmosphere. Water is Hydrogen and Oxygen and came from the Atmosphere and is not shown as a separate creation.

This is correct in today's scientific knowledge, but IF the Scriptures were written by Ancient men, Moses would not have known this. He would have written that in the beginning God created the Air, Dust, and Water, but since God Himself is the Author, He correctly shows that the Atmosphere and Ground were created, and the Water was not a separate creation but instead, came from the Atmosphere.

 

[Ghideon]

22 minutes ago, 2Pillars said:

Through faith we understand that the worlds (multiverse) were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

Which version of the book contains the word ”multiverse”? 

[beecee]

34 minutes ago, 2Pillars said:

Based on the Scripture:

Once upon a time, there lived a magical spaghetti monster who lived somewhere in the sky............

and they all lived happily ever after.

 

A shame that whatever deity you chose, like all other deities of any persausions, is now mostly superfluous and has been pushed into near oblivion with science. 

[2Pillars]

16 minutes ago, Ghideon said:

Which version of the book contains the word ”multiverse”? 

A Multiverse is composed of 2 or more Universes.

According to the Scripture (KJV):

Gen. 1:6-8 tells us the first heaven (Universe-Cosmos-Heaven) was made on the SECOND Day.

Gen. 2:4 shows that other HeavenS (Heaven is defined in Gen. 1:8) were made on the THIRD Day.

That is 3 firmaments or boundaries of a Heaven (Cosmos, Universe-world) made by the 3rd Day.

Isa 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. v2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 

It's a Multiverse, alright. 

[Sensei]

44 minutes ago, 2Pillars said:

The 3 elements necessary for all physical form are shown... Air, Dust, and Water. Everything which is physical is composed of these 3 elements.

Air is synonym of gaseous state of the matter,

dust is synonym of solid state of the matter,

and water is synonym of liquid state of the matter.

Almost the all elements and molecules can be in the all three states of the matter, as long as they have higher decomposition-point than phase-change point..

It's just a matter of how much energy we will put in that matter.. and sooner or later they will change state of the matter..

 

 

[2Pillars]

Gen 1:1-2 In the beginning God Created the heaven (Hebrew - Air) and the Earth (Hebrew -Ground). And the Earth (Ground) was without form, (Dust) and void; (Empty) and darkness was upon the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

God doesn't tell us exactly in the Bible that He made everything from nothing (ex-nihilo). Here is what He told us which agrees with Albert Einstein's discoveries 2k years later:

Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds (multiverse) were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

Albert Einstein learned that energy and matter are opposite sides of the same coin. God simply flipped energy into matter in the beginning - but without form and void. 

God knew that in order for Death to be defeated, He would have to send his Son into our physical world to give light/life and to mold the formless earth (like Dust)... and destroy the darkness/death which was upon everything God had created APART from his spiritual realm. 

The emergence of Light (Gen 1:3) was when Our Lord God YHWH or Jesus, the Son, came forth from the invisible Spirit of God into the physical world. Then, Jesus,  took some of this air, dust, and water and flipped it again into Energy, at the Big Bang,which cooled and became our Cosmos. That's the way the Supreme Intelligence of Creation makes worlds.

Our God is an Awesome God.

Edited April 14, 2019 by 2Pillars

[Ghideon]

2 hours ago, 2Pillars said:

It's a Multiverse, alright

Ok, the discussion is about one personal interpretation of writings in a book then. There are many interpretations.

[hypervalent_iodine]

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