herodotus Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 I currently have been holding information regarding the face on mars. This information could change the way we think about the evolution of humans and the possibility of life elsewhere. I am looking for the best way to convey my information to the world. I was thinking of just sending it to Richard Hoagland, but unfortunatly I'm not willing to give this away for free. Any ideas? It is amazing, when I showed my friend "a sceptic" he almost had a heart attack. I was thinking about a one time e-mail/ mail out in six months. Sorry nothing's for free, I need donations for my flyfishing guide operation/ relax and enjoy life. Thanks for your time, Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Excacius Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 Sup Dude.... if you wanna get your info out, how about take it to your nearest NASA place and tell them about it.... but I doubt anyone will give you money for something they haven't seen before... shit how would they kno if after they paid you you would show them a picture of bambi and walk off with a shitload of money? :bs: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 If it's anything to do with navigable planets and squishing then I'd pay to see it. However ¡NASA Place! are probably more interested in the Butt on Mercury. PS - temporarily moved to Pseudoscience, because until there's evidence in the thread, or indeed a theory of some sort, that's what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herodotus Posted July 5, 2003 Author Share Posted July 5, 2003 I agree. I have been doing some thinking and I think the only way is to write a book. I'll give you a hint, It links atlantis to a mars civilization. It really is of no concern to NASA unless they are interested in changing the history of mankind. We did not evolve on this planet unless we had a little help from above. But that is a different forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHinfcube22 Posted July 6, 2003 Share Posted July 6, 2003 Writing a book is a great Idea. I had this Idea one time that would alter the way one thought about space, time, and the human mind itself. I didn't want to go out a tell some on, because I didn't think they would believe till I could prove it. Then I thought, why don't I writ a book. I could put what I thought into th stroy line, so they don't think I'm crazy, just that person in the book. I could hide all the details in the story. But I'm to lazy, an stopped writing one or two pages into it.:zzz: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted July 10, 2003 Share Posted July 10, 2003 I would definitely pay good money to read a book you wrote, Cube. And I'd make all my friends buy it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herodotus Posted July 11, 2003 Author Share Posted July 11, 2003 Thanks everybody, I am cutting back on my commercial fly tying so I can accomplish my dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deamonstar Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 the image of the face is an optical illusion due to light and shadow. nasa has taken several new photos with much higher resolution cameras from several different angles, along with topological measurements. the verdict... the face is just another ordinary mesa in the cydonia region. for further reading follow this link. http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast24may_1.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herodotus Posted July 27, 2003 Author Share Posted July 27, 2003 Then I suspect that the ancient culture which created a depiction of a certain god is just an illusion also. It's funny how they even made it with the same light and shadow tricks, but in stone with no camera. I guess I will have to let Hoagland in on my discovery. So the world can know the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atinymonkey Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herodotus Posted July 31, 2003 Author Share Posted July 31, 2003 It will all soon be clear. I will post when it is time The Spinx comparison, wrong. My comparison correct. It requires geometric analysis. Mountains were said to be the dwelling places of the gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deamonstar Posted August 3, 2003 Share Posted August 3, 2003 "Mountains were said to be the dwelling places of the gods. " this speculation comes from the ancient Sumerians and Babalonians. one of their primary gods was called Marduk Kurios. an Elder God, Marduk Kurios was a child of the Ancient Ones. he possed (and was the source of) the magic that the Elder Gods weilded to overtrow their predecessors (the Ancient Ones). his throne on earth was a mountain top. in incantations used by those ancient cultures, the word 'KUR' is often used to invoke the magic for their ceremonies. this word is taken directly from its source: Kurios. it is a word of 'power' and, depending on its use, could be translated into 'magic' or 'mountain'. there is also a Greek word for Lord of the same name: Kurios... still more evidence of its root in the name of Marduk Kurios. the following is transcribed from the editors introduction of the book "the Necronomicon"... "(Note: the original translator had noticed the resemblance between the Greek word for Lord, kurios, and the Sumerian word for Mountain, kur, and for a type of underworld, cthonic, monster which is also called kur and which refers to the Leviathan of the Old Testament... The Old Derpent KUR is, of course, invoked every day by the Christians: Kyrie Eleison!)". (note the resemblance between the words 'Kyrie' and 'Kur'.) but, as far as the 'face' being an ancient artifact of another race of intelligent beings on Mars... I will remain on the side of 'natural formation' untill irrefutable direct evidence determines otherwise. after all... there are many natural formations here on earth that closely resemble intelligent design that are obviously (and under investigative, archeological scrutiny) NOT man-made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deamonstar Posted August 3, 2003 Share Posted August 3, 2003 (good greif! I really hate making typos! but, it is the conveyance of meaning and not the grammatical correctness that is important. but, if you are wise... you would already know this.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kettle Posted August 3, 2003 Share Posted August 3, 2003 I wouldn't take anything from the Necronomicon as truth - it was a creation of 1930's horror-writer (and general nutcase) H.P. Lovecraft (note - he's nothing to do with the porn shop in Leicester Square). Lovecraft also thought up a convoluted history for the book including its mad Arab author Abdhl' Al Hazred, a series of supposed translations, it's retrieval from ancient ruins and the fact that it draws heavily from Arabic myths etc, which means that it isn't immediately obvious as a work of fiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deamonstar Posted August 3, 2003 Share Posted August 3, 2003 touche! however, kur and kurios do have ancient origins which refer to magic/lord/mountain. this was merely to illistrate the point of the idea that mounains were the dwelling places of the gods. it is also in a similar fashion to the ancient greeks with mt. olympus. in either case it has little to do with the 'face of mars'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kettle Posted August 3, 2003 Share Posted August 3, 2003 Indeed I'm still intrigued to know which "ancient culture" herodotus is referring to - are you actually going to spill the beans? Atlantis is very much en vogue at the moment isn't it? A new sci-fi series is being developed around that idea, there's the Disney movie and that guy (the one who's linked all the ancient civilisations all across the globe to Atlantis because if you squint very hard the configuration of their cities looks a little bit like some constellations) still keeps plugging his (tenuous) theory at every available opportunity. Where, geographically, is Atlantis in your theory, herodotus? There has been much speculation (some compelling, some utterly ridiculous) about this and I'd be intrigued to know what your idea is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted August 3, 2003 Share Posted August 3, 2003 Ah yes, the constellations chap. If you have a scattering of buildings and a scattering of something else, oh I don't know - how about stars, of course you are going to be able to find matching configurations. In fact as I recall somebody went out and matched random buildings in US cities to the constellations he was interested in, just to prove the point. I'm sure you could find trees (as an example) standing in the same configurations, are we to believe they were planted by post-Atlantean civilisations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atinymonkey Posted August 3, 2003 Share Posted August 3, 2003 Originally posted by herodotus The Spinx comparison, wrong. My comparison correct. It requires geometric analysis. Mountains were said to be the dwelling places of the gods. Ohh, is this going to link the Sphinx to the Mars face? It's true that the Sphinx predates the Egyptians. It may even have been formed my the Mesopotamians. I'd like to hear the connection; I’m guessing it's about proving the sociological need to construct by showing parallels in our own ancient culture and the Mars face. By the way, I know where Atlantis was. At least I know the most convincing theory. It's got the exodus of the Jews an everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kettle Posted August 4, 2003 Share Posted August 4, 2003 The best case for a possible Atlantis location that I've heard so far is (and I apologise for not being able to remember the name) a tiny island to the north of ancient Minoa. It is a partially submerged volcano with the remnants of a central "peak" - a group of geologists believe they can trace back erosion etc and can match the topology pretty closely to Plato's description although they glossed over the Pillars of Hercules a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herodotus Posted August 4, 2003 Author Share Posted August 4, 2003 Who knows but I like it. Their is so much information to go over, perhaps together we can come up with some answers Try ADOBE photoshop, layer and change the opasity. Thanks for listening, no fortune is worth more than knowledge. I have to go fish now, take care Randy Primeau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herodotus Posted August 4, 2003 Author Share Posted August 4, 2003 Atlantis was said to have three harbours. The Atlantic The Pacific The Indian Ocean Antactica, World park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted August 4, 2003 Share Posted August 4, 2003 Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kettle Posted August 5, 2003 Share Posted August 5, 2003 ooooh-kay. It's been a while since I read any Plato but his descriptions of Atlantis certainly indicate (if I remember correctly - feel free to dump any passages in here that suggest otherwise) that he had been there. This is where the idea of Antartica being Atlantis kinda falls down - it was buried under ice long before Plato was writing and, as far as we know, the ancient Greeks were not able to reliably sail so far from the Mediterranean - triremes, although good ships, were certainly not built for such long journeys. We also know the topography of the "land" parts of Antartica and they do not match Plato's description of the concentric rings of land, with an island (with a plain and one small hill) in the centre. The other problem is that Plato used to write considerable volumes on utopian societies - what differentiates his writings on Atlantis from The Republic? Their "tone" is very similar...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atinymonkey Posted August 7, 2003 Share Posted August 7, 2003 Yup. The island of Thera, destroyed by the active volcano on which it was built. Fairly close to where Plato was based, it was a central point for trade and so became a rich civilisation, and hence a more developed society. With the influx of trades came knowledge from all areas of the world, hence the appearance of an advanced society. Volcanic rock is highly fertile, and fits with Plato's description. But it has no Inca connections to my knowledge. So it’s probably wrong. I know Tintin may have formed the same connection that Herodotus did, in 'Flight 714', but he had his mind erased at the end of the book. http://www.dustygroove.com/prip/5/6/68465i.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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