awaterpon Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 My first thread about this topic: F=GmM/r²This equation is not valid and wrong.What is wrong with this equation?Mathematics equations are a away to measure quantities related to other quantities .Equations works for finite values, I measure r = 4 meters and find out F to be x NewtonsEquations won't work for infinite values , that is equations themselves works finitely but not infinitely .Let say F decreases without bound while r increases without bound, then the equation itself as a functional tool will approach infinity and the equation limit as r approaches ∞ is ∞, the equation is undefined and wrong.If the equation definition is the tool that finds values of F for each value of r, then I can't find all values of F for all values of r , then the equation won't work for all values of F and r and it is useless and invalid.That means the equation itself approaches ∞ in measuring the quantities and undefined I can say at F=0 , r doesn't exist and equals ∞, so the equation won't work and undefined in such case and invalid, but some scientists might say F won't reach 0 ever , so I presented the explanation above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufofrog Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Since infinity is not a number this is no problem. Any number you put in for R will result in a valid result. Since infinity is a concept it is not surprising that substituting a concept for a number will result in an invalid result. Glad we cleared that up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 ! Moderator Note You were warned. Closed pending moderator discussion. On 5/6/2019 at 10:53 AM, swansont said: Moderator Note Do not bring up any other models of gravity. You've demonstrated that you are not willing/able to discuss science with enough rigor to make it worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 ! Moderator Note @awaterpon The problem you see here is nothing to do with gravity, it is a general problem in many equations. If you want to understand how mathematics (and therefore physics) handles equations that can lead to infinities, then I suggest you read up on the concept of "limits" and how to determine (using calculus) how an equation behaves as values approach infinity. If you want to start a thread on this (in the Mathematics forum) then do so, but stick to asking questions (and not claiming things are wrong when they obviously are not). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 2 hours ago, awaterpon said: I can say at F=0 , r doesn't exist and equals ∞, so the equation won't work and undefined in such case and invalid, but some scientists might say F won't reach 0 ever , so I presented the explanation above. ! Moderator Note Dependent and independent variables seems to be another thing to discuss, in addition to limits that Strange has mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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