Amazing Random Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Well this topic is about a crazy idea I came up about space-time . I was wondering how everything came from nothing . I mean we have positive mass and energy but in the beginning we should have an absolute 0 . Ok so what if space-time is a substance and is made of subatomic particles as well ? Earth bends space-time . And every object with big enough mass-energy bends it . But this bending doesn't it look like the space-time is "repulsed" from the object? I know it is very crazy but it explains how everything came to be . Before big bang there wasn't anything . And suddenly quantum fluctuations started happening and created positive and negative mass ( negative mass being the fabric of space-time). The positive matter particles created started to annihiliate each other producing energy . Negative mass particles didnt annihiliate with each other so they remained as space-time . 3 minutes ago, Amazing Random said: Well this topic is about a crazy idea I came up about space-time . I was wondering how everything came from nothing . I mean we have positive mass and energy but in the beginning we should have an absolute 0 . Ok so what if space-time is a substance and is made of subatomic particles as well ? Earth bends space-time . And every object with big enough mass-energy bends it . But this bending doesn't it look like the space-time is "repulsed" from the object? I know it is very crazy but it explains how everything came to be . Before big bang there wasn't anything . And suddenly quantum fluctuations started happening and created positive and negative mass ( negative mass being the fabric of space-time). The positive matter particles created started to annihiliate each other producing energy . Negative mass particles didnt annihiliate with each other so they remained as space-time . It reminds me of Star-Trek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Just now, Amazing Random said: I was wondering how everything came from nothing There is no evidence it did. Just now, Amazing Random said: I mean we have positive mass and energy but in the beginning we should have an absolute 0 There is the "zero energy universe" hypothesis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-energy_universe Quote Ok so what if space-time is a substance and is made of subatomic particles as well ? There is not evidence that space-time is quantised (despite experiments to detect it). 2 minutes ago, Amazing Random said: But this bending doesn't it look like the space-time is "repulsed" from the object? No. A better analogy is that space is falling towards massive objects: https://jila.colorado.edu/~ajsh/insidebh/waterfall.html (But it is just an analogy. Space is not "stuff". 3 minutes ago, Amazing Random said: I know it is very crazy but it explains how everything came to be . Not unless you have math, quantitative predictions and objective tests of those predictions. 3 minutes ago, Amazing Random said: Before big bang there wasn't anything . And suddenly quantum fluctuations started happening If there was nothing, where did these fluctuations happen? 4 minutes ago, Amazing Random said: negative mass being the fabric of space-time There is no evidence that spacetime has mass, and no evidence of anything with negative mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazing Random Posted August 4, 2019 Author Share Posted August 4, 2019 Just now, Strange said: There is no evidence it did. Somewhen it had to. 2 minutes ago, Strange said: There is the "zero energy universe" hypothesis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-energy_universe The gravitation field doesn't create negative stress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Amazing Random said: Somewhen it had to. Did it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazing Random Posted August 4, 2019 Author Share Posted August 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Strange said: No. A better analogy is that space is falling towards massive objects: https://jila.colorado.edu/~ajsh/insidebh/waterfall.html If it was falling towards massive objects we wouldn't have gravity a black hole would be a white hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Amazing Random said: The gravitation field doesn't create negative stress. You mean compression? I think gravity is quite able to produce that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazing Random Posted August 4, 2019 Author Share Posted August 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, Strange said: There is not evidence that space-time is quantised (despite experiments to detect it). We may search for the wrong things . I mean normal matter would not interact with negative matter in quantum world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Amazing Random said: If it was falling towards massive objects we wouldn't have gravity a black hole would be a white hole. That page was about the physics of black holes. Maybe you should read it again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gullstrand–Painlevé_coordinates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazing Random Posted August 4, 2019 Author Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Strange said: You mean compression? I think gravity is quite able to produce that. I mean a hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Just now, Amazing Random said: We may search for the wrong things . I mean normal matter would not interact with negative matter in quantum world You are just making up random stuff again, aren't you. There is no science here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazing Random Posted August 4, 2019 Author Share Posted August 4, 2019 Just now, Amazing Random said: We may search for the wrong things . I mean normal matter would not interact with negative matter in quantum world Since gravity doesnt exist in the quantum world. Just now, Strange said: You are just making up random stuff again, aren't you. There is no science here. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Just now, Amazing Random said: Since gravity doesnt exist in the quantum world. So you claim. But it's just another bit of nonsense you have made up. And you have a thread for that. Let's at least try and keep your garbage organised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazing Random Posted August 4, 2019 Author Share Posted August 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, Strange said: There is no evidence it did. There is the "zero energy universe" hypothesis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-energy_universe There is not evidence that space-time is quantised (despite experiments to detect it). No. A better analogy is that space is falling towards massive objects: https://jila.colorado.edu/~ajsh/insidebh/waterfall.html (But it is just an analogy. Space is not "stuff". Not unless you have math, quantitative predictions and objective tests of those predictions. If there was nothing, where did these fluctuations happen? There is no evidence that spacetime has mass, and no evidence of anything with negative mass. No where . We say that quantum fluctuations happen in a quantum system which is a part of space-time but if space-time is a substance they dont require anything. 1 minute ago, Strange said: So you claim. But it's just another bit of nonsense you have made up. And you have a thread for that. Let's at least try and keep your garbage organised. Be careful how you chat with me ok? Just now, Amazing Random said: No where . We say that quantum fluctuations happen in a quantum system which is a part of space-time but if space-time is a substance they dont require anything. Be careful how you chat with me ok? I didnt say anything offensive. 11 minutes ago, Strange said: There is no evidence that spacetime has mass, and no evidence of anything with negative mass. The instruments we have can't find negative mass since it only interacts with positive mass through gravity. 13 minutes ago, Strange said: T If there was nothing, where did these fluctuations happen? No where . We say that quantum fluctuations happen in a quantum system which is a part of space-time but if space-time is a substance they dont require anything. It is worth thinking of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 36 minutes ago, Amazing Random said: I didnt say anything offensive. ! Moderator Note Nobody is attacking you personally, either. It's your strange ideas about spacetime that are being attacked, because science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 ! Moderator Note Closed at OP's request Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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