Mordred Posted August 10, 2019 Posted August 10, 2019 Lol one of my three rules of life. Tomorrow I will be a better man than I am today (always strive for self improvement ) Treat others as I wish to to treated If I'm not having fun pretend. ( learn to enjoy every moment no matter how daunting) 8 hours ago, J.C.MacSwell said: I just try to be a better person today than I was yesterday. That's the key to my success... ...setting the bar low 1
Wulphstein Posted August 10, 2019 Posted August 10, 2019 The purpose of life is to exploit nuances in the laws of physics
FreeWill Posted August 10, 2019 Posted August 10, 2019 On 8/7/2019 at 6:39 AM, zapatos said: "Purpose" implies a reason for being. There are a lot of reasons why you are and what you are. You might not have any more reasons to be (which would be very sad) but I am sure it was not true in your twenties and you had a lot of recognized reasons for your existence. I.e the studies and works you made, how you planned and developed your life...
dimreepr Posted August 10, 2019 Posted August 10, 2019 1 hour ago, FreeWill said: There are a lot of reasons why you are and what you are. There's a lot of reasons why you are you, but there's no reason to be you. 1 hour ago, FreeWill said: but I am sure it was not true in your twenties and you had a lot of recognized reasons for your existence. I.e the studies and works you made, how you planned and developed your life... All of that is goal driven, which is generally set by others; work towards this, in order to achieve this and be this; meanwhile you forget to enjoy this. 1 hour ago, Wulphstein said: The purpose of life is to exploit nuances in the laws of physics Good joke... 15 hours ago, Airbrush said: Improvement, in itself, is enough success and happiness. What is success (and happiness)? What if I'm happier than yesterday, but worse? e.g. I was starving yesterday and stole a meat pie. (!!!Cliche warning!!!) At the end of the day, if you can look yourself in the mirror you've succeeded in life and if your content with what you see, you're allowed to be happy...
FreeWill Posted August 10, 2019 Posted August 10, 2019 33 minutes ago, dimreepr said: All of that is goal driven, which is generally set by others If I am aware the goals set by me and I have a lot of learned knowledge and experience
dimreepr Posted August 10, 2019 Posted August 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, FreeWill said: If I am aware the goals set by me and I have a lot of learned knowledge and experience Good for you, did you forget to enjoy this experience.
zapatos Posted August 10, 2019 Posted August 10, 2019 3 hours ago, FreeWill said: There are a lot of reasons why you are and what you are. You might not have any more reasons to be (which would be very sad) but I am sure it was not true in your twenties and you had a lot of recognized reasons for your existence. I.e the studies and works you made, how you planned and developed your life... The question was not "what is the purpose of zapatos", the question was "what is the purpose of life".
Airbrush Posted August 12, 2019 Author Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) The question is what is the purpose of life in general, not what the human purpose for life is. I don't know, but it looks to me like life endeavors to survive by respiration, eating and drinking, and avoiding being eaten or injured, and staying at a comfortable temperature, and eventually procreate to leave genetic replicas. If life can adapt to more environments it can be more successful at leaving progeny. Edited August 12, 2019 by Airbrush
naitche Posted August 13, 2019 Posted August 13, 2019 My answer would be, to utilise the ability of response. Response-ability, to alter the environment to better favour life, beginning with the subjective individual and their own part in that process. 1
Airbrush Posted August 13, 2019 Author Posted August 13, 2019 (edited) I have a correction to make. I suggested that evolution is an example of life changing, through mutation, in effect to adapt better to a changing environment. "Getting better" as evolution is only half the story of life. Life endeavors to survive and reproduce. Sharks and cockroaches have not evolved much but they survived over 100 million years almost unchanged. Life does not always need to evolve to survive. Right? Edited August 13, 2019 by Airbrush
FreeWill Posted August 13, 2019 Posted August 13, 2019 Crazy what some potato, veggies and meet can add up to and here we are. The overall reason is to Be(better). Selective pressure influencing this urge to be better. Knowledge and experience influence faster and better adaption to physical changes. The final Purpose is: to make Sense, what is Reality.
StringJunky Posted August 13, 2019 Posted August 13, 2019 (edited) On 8/12/2019 at 8:57 PM, Airbrush said: The question is what is the purpose of life in general, not what the human purpose for life is. I don't know, but it looks to me like life endeavors to survive by respiration, eating and drinking, and avoiding being eaten or injured, and staying at a comfortable temperature, and eventually procreate to leave genetic replicas. If life can adapt to more environments it can be more successful at leaving progeny. Evolution is a blind watchmaker. Nothing drives it. It is change in frequency of alleles over time. Evolution can go backwards; it's still evolution. Adaptation is caused by mutation, which is random. There is no purpose. Time to pull out the whisky. Edited August 13, 2019 by StringJunky
FreeWill Posted August 13, 2019 Posted August 13, 2019 27 minutes ago, StringJunky said: Evolution is a blind watchmaker. Nothing drives it. What about time?
zapatos Posted August 13, 2019 Posted August 13, 2019 1 hour ago, FreeWill said: What about time? What would you like to know about time?
FreeWill Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 6 hours ago, zapatos said: What would you like to know about time? Time drives evolution
iNow Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 10 hours ago, FreeWill said: Time drives evolution Bananas execute purple. See? I can post meaningless word salad, too. Evolution as a process requires progress through time, otherwise lifeforms would remain static (no time = no change), but this is an otherwise completely useless statement that provides no insight or explanatory power. 2
zapatos Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, iNow said: Bananas execute purple. Thanks. I was having a hard time coming up with a response.
FreeWill Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 2 hours ago, zapatos said: Thanks. I was having a hard time coming up with a response No wonder as my response was on 22 hours ago, StringJunky said: Evolution is a blind watchmaker. Nothing drives it. The difference is that my note makes sense . Without time there is no Evolution(iNow recognize that too), so time has impact on Evolution I.e drives it.
iNow Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 Your logic is flawed. Saying time is required for change should not be conflated with "time drives evolution." Selection drives evolution, not time. Time is merely prerequisite.
FreeWill Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 37 minutes ago, iNow said: Time is merely prerequisite Which means that you should fundamentally count with Time as a reason to Evolution to happen.
MPMin Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 On 8/6/2019 at 3:14 PM, Airbrush said: This is a serious question. I'd like to know how you would answer this in a few words. to live
FreeWill Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, iNow said: Selection drives evolution, not time. Selection happens by Time. There is No selection if time does not pass. Than time is a prerequisite of Selection as well. For me your logic is flawed, when you try to neglect time, in a case of a time dependent biophysical process. Edited August 14, 2019 by FreeWill
zapatos Posted August 14, 2019 Posted August 14, 2019 There is NO evolution if length does not exit. Therefore length drives evolution. And while we are at it, width drives radioactive decay, and depth drives fermentation. 1
FreeWill Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, zapatos said: There is NO evolution if length does not exit. Therefore length drives evolution. True. Very good insight. Length is part of Space. I thought it would be enough to mention Time, because since a while, for a reason, we use space and time as one physical entity: spacetime. But sure you right. Edited August 15, 2019 by FreeWill
FreeWill Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) On 8/10/2019 at 1:36 PM, dimreepr said: On 8/10/2019 at 1:36 PM, dimreepr said: There's a lot of reasons why you are you, but there's no reason to be you. Who else I could be? My experience and appearance is universally unique. I just can be myself and I think there is a reason to be Me. I am aware of my biophysical values so I call myself conscious. Energy with consciousness. There is an energetic change during death, and we know from the laws of thermodynamics that energy can not disappear from the system. The Energy who I am, will exist further in some form as part of Nature, even my material appearance will be long decayed. Of this I am sure of. I always, wanna be a positive impact on reality. I think my life is a possibility to understand nature (space,time,energy,matter and information) and experience, test and sense its appearance. Who else could I be if not the conscious Me? I am the result of a 13.8 billion years long biophysical process. Time and Space is a reason for me to be. This reason alone is enough for me, to wanna be. Edited August 15, 2019 by FreeWill
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