Guest frowningbuddha Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I would like to discuss a string model that may contain two dimensions of time. I don't know if I am counting dimensions correctly or not and the model has parts I have not been able to identify, strange as that may sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 If its not a mainstream model you should post your theory in our Speculation forum. You will also need far more detail than you have above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest frowningbuddha Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Thank you. This is a type one open ended with mass model which I think falls within the parameters of what some would call mainstream. Is there any string theory or model that is not speculation? This string is shaped like a peeled banana with the pointed ends cut off flat. If you had three of these strings end to end they would form a torus manifold. I suspect that perhaps there are or were at one time, closed end torus manifold strings and that inflation may have broke the manifold into three equal size strings. I also suspect this string to be associated with the electron. When I count the dimensions of this string there is the obvious length width and height but I also count the flat circles at each end and then have to account for the curve of the string as well when describing degrees of freedom. That could be six dimensions from the way I view this model since the flat ends counter off at different angles because the string is only one third of a circle and not a half circle which would have identical flat round ends. For purposes yet to be revealed let's shrink ourselves down to where we are in a car on the surface of the string. This car would represent compacted dimensions on the surface of the string.The car has a match box shape with three dimensions and because the car will be traveling around the string we have one dimension of time. In total now this model may have ten dimensions. There are three locations on the string where if the car were driven in a straight line it could make a complete circle and these three locations would be in the center of the string and circling the two ends. However if the car were angled slightly as it traversed around the string the curvature of the string would cause the car to endlessly orbit the string from one end to the other. In this model the string is obviously very dense and possessing a negative charge. The car or compacted dimensions is suspected to a magnetic flux field. At this point my knowledge fails me to a great extent. Magnets have a positive pole and negative pole and I assume that this magnetic flux field also has a positive component which is what caused the field to be attracted to the string in the first place. I also think that magnetic force lines are the only thing that could account for the three dimensional match box shape of the flux field which orbits on the surface of the string and it would be this flux field or compacted dimensions which experiences the degrees of freedom associated with the string. I question what is driving the orbit. I'm thinking it could be gravity which causes the flux field to continually fall around the string. Perhaps there is an exchange of gravitons or gravitinos between the compacted dimensions and the string or if not gravity then electromagnetic forces between the negative string and the positive portion of the flux field. During a collision between a photon and this string it is possible for the compacted dimensions to leave the string and traverse the photon enabling the compacted dimensions to transit from one end of the string to the other end of the string. I do not understand the relationship between the photon and the supposed magnetic flux field if this is so. In addition there seems to be two dimensions of time because would not the string have its own time dimension that is separate from the time dimension associated with the compacted dimensions? That would make eleven dimensions if so. Any thoughts or comments about this string model would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 ! Moderator Note Moved to Speculations. 15 minutes ago, frowningbuddha said: This string is shaped like a peeled banana with the pointed ends cut off flat. If you had three of these strings end to end they would form a torus manifold. I suspect that perhaps there are or were at one time, closed end torus manifold strings and that inflation may have broke the manifold into three equal size strings. I also suspect this string to be associated with the electron. Can you show us the mathematics for your model? In particular to show that this "banana string" has the same properties as an electron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufofrog Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 47 minutes ago, frowningbuddha said: When I count the dimensions of this string there is the obvious length width and height but I also count the flat circles at each end and then have to account for the curve of the string as well when describing degrees of freedom. That could be six dimensions from the way I view this model Length, width and height are dimensions. Flat circles are not dimensions. The flat circles are completely described by your first 3 dimensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiot Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) 57 minutes ago, frowningbuddha said: When I count the dimensions of this string there is the obvious length width and height but I also count the flat circles at each end and then have to account for the curve of the string as well when describing degrees of freedom. That could be six dimensions from the way I view this model since the flat ends counter off at different angles because the string is only one third of a circle and not a half circle which would have identical flat round ends. It is not clear to me why 3 more dimensions than the ordinary 3 are needed to describe this situation. So how does the need for 6 arise? I also note that conventionally reduction degrees of freedom reduces the number of dimensions. For instance the contraint x2 + y2 + z2 = r2 reduces a manifold from 3D to 2D. 57 minutes ago, frowningbuddha said: During a collision between a photon and this string it is possible for the compacted dimensions to leave the string and traverse the photon enabling the compacted dimensions to transit from one end of the string to the other end of the string. I do not understand the relationship between the photon and the supposed magnetic flux field if this is so. I also do not understand this relationship. What does "compacted dimensions leaving the string or transiting the string mean"? Edited August 31, 2019 by studiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest frowningbuddha Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 The moderator says I should move this conversation to a speculation forum so once I find that I will do my best. I only have the model I am looking for someone who can do the math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, frowningbuddha said: The moderator says I should move this conversation to a speculation forum so once I find that I will do my best. ! Moderator Note Already done 7 minutes ago, frowningbuddha said: I only have the model I am looking for someone who can do the math. ! Moderator Note Then this thread does not meet the minimum requirements for the Speculations forum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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