psi20 Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 How do you solve this problem? The parabola y=ax^2 + 6 is tangent to the line y=x. Find a.
Primarygun Posted August 13, 2005 Posted August 13, 2005 There is only one intersection for the two graphs.
DQW Posted August 14, 2005 Posted August 14, 2005 How do you solve this problem?The parabola y=ax^2 + 6 is tangent to the line y=x. Find a. A necessary condition for a line to be a tangent at some point of a curve is that the line have the same slope as the curve does at that point.
psi20 Posted August 14, 2005 Author Posted August 14, 2005 is a 1/2? I'm kind of rusty on derivatives.
DQW Posted August 14, 2005 Posted August 14, 2005 Alternative approach : For a line to be tangent to a curve, the line and curve must have exactly one point of intersection. The points of intersection between the two is clearly given by the quadratic equation got from eliminating y between the two equations. What is the condition for a quadratic equation to have exactly one real solution ? PS : 'a' is not 1/2
DQW Posted August 14, 2005 Posted August 14, 2005 First approach : Use the condition for equal slopes. This gives 2ax = 1 or x = 1/2a. From this, you have the point of intersection in terms of 'a', which you can plug into the equation for the parabola and solve for 'a'.
ElijahJones Posted September 25, 2005 Posted September 25, 2005 How do you solve this problem?The parabola y=ax^2 + 6 is tangent to the line y=x. Find a. Yeah I think it is easiest to simply realize that you are evaluating a constraint (sort of like a boundary condition) f(x)=ax^2+6 g(x)=x Such that f'(x)=g'(x), so 2ax = 1, x = 1/(2a) This is the information we gathered from evaluating the constraint. But look we are really free to pick either a or x to suit our fancy. Nowhere does the problem stipulate that f(x) should equal g(x) only that at some point the slopes are equal. So lets say we want a parabola that has slope one at the point x=1 then we get 1=1/2a, a = 1/2 So yes (a,x) = (1/2,1) is one solution, but for every x there is a corresponding a. In fact this is really a rather clever question. You can see that the real solution is a hyperbola by graphing x = 1/(2a). You could also think of this as a map that associates to every value x, a function f(x)=ax^2+6 Oh yeah also look at the parabola ax^2 + 6. The slope at any point is not affected by adding six (we know this from the derivative) and the parabola is still symmetric with respect to the y-axis. So if you want a parabola that has a slope of 1 at x=-1 pick a =-1/2. The reason this is interesting is that it flips the parabola upside down. This type of change with respect to a parameter is called a bifurcation, meaning the object is quantitatively different depending on whether a certain parameter (in this case x) has crossed a certain threshold (in this case zero). In more complicated systems of differential equations important properties of the system can change dramatically as parameters vary. I know that is far beyond the level of this question but maybe it will peak your interest.
jcarlson Posted October 4, 2005 Posted October 4, 2005 Yeah I think it is easiest to simply realize that you are evaluating a constraint (sort of like a boundary condition) f(x)=ax^2+6 g(x)=x Such that f'(x)=g'(x)' date=' so 2ax = 1, x = 1/(2a) This is the information we gathered from evaluating the constraint. But look we are really free to pick either a or x to suit our fancy. Nowhere does the problem stipulate that f(x) should equal g(x) only that at some point the slopes are equal. So lets say we want a parabola that has slope one at the point x=1 then we get 1=1/2a, a = 1/2 So yes (a,x) = (1/2,1) is one solution, but for every x there is a corresponding a. In fact this is really a rather clever question. You can see that the real solution is a hyperbola by graphing x = 1/(2a). You could also think of this as a map that associates to every value x, a function f(x)=ax^2+6 Oh yeah also look at the parabola ax^2 + 6. The slope at any point is not affected by adding six (we know this from the derivative) and the parabola is still symmetric with respect to the y-axis. So if you want a parabola that has a slope of 1 at x=-1 pick a =-1/2. The reason this is interesting is that it flips the parabola upside down. This type of change with respect to a parameter is called a bifurcation, meaning the object is quantitatively different depending on whether a certain parameter (in this case x) has crossed a certain threshold (in this case zero). In more complicated systems of differential equations important properties of the system can change dramatically as parameters vary. I know that is far beyond the level of this question but maybe it will peak your interest. [/quote'] This is incorrect, there is only one solution for a. You have to remember that in order for a function f(x) to be tangent to a function g(x), not only must f'(x) = g'(x) but also f(x) = g(x), or else you could end up with two lines that have the same slope, but dont touch (basically parallel at x). if f(x) = ax^2 + 6 and g(x) = x, then we have the equations ax^2 + 6=x AND 2ax = 1 Solving for x in the second equation, we have: x= 1/(2a) Now, solving the system by subsituting the second equation into the first, we have a/(4a^2) + 6 = 1/(2a) which simplifies to 6 = 1/2 * 1/a - 1/4 * 1/a 6= 1/(4a) 1/6 = 4a a=1/24 Now, we check our work buy subbing a into the original equation: f(x)=1/24 * x^2 + 6 f'(x) = 1/12 * x g(x) = x g'(x) = 1 1 = 1/12 * x x = 12 At x = 12, we see that f(x) = 144/24 + 6 = 12, and g(x) = 12, therefore f(x) and g(x) intersect at this point, and f'(x) = 1 and g'(x) = 1, so they are in fact, tangent at x = 12, or when a = 1/24.
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