Kermit Posted August 13, 2005 Posted August 13, 2005 They honestly need to set a restriction on the use of "scientifically proven!" by those outside scientific research. I'm sick and tired of hearing new "wonder cures" on the TV that have absolutely no scientific basis at all and are probably just sugar pills marketed to the morons. Also: - Germanium was "scientifically proven" to be a cure-all and prevent cancers and such by some crazy Japanese guy. Subsequently the FDA disproved it and even found it detrimental in large quantities in the body. - Jews were "scientificially proven" by the Nazis to be inferior and were subsequently murdered. - Nitrous oxide in tablet form is "scientifically proven" to somehow produce weight loss and increase healing rates when all it does is make you feel lightheaded and in large quantities is dangerous. - Creationism was "scientifically proven" until Sayonara came along. I can't stand the phrase and I can't stand how people actually think that every single thing around them, no matter how farfetched, is "scientifically proven". I swear, i'm going to be a hermit when i'm older.
calbiterol Posted August 13, 2005 Posted August 13, 2005 Hermit Kermit. Seriously though, I agree with you 110%, it's really, really annoying that every little thing is "scientifically proven."
Klaynos Posted August 13, 2005 Posted August 13, 2005 I actually growned when I read the title and thought "not another one" sorry I agree completely, and a study of 4 people is NOT good evidence!
ydoaPs Posted August 13, 2005 Posted August 13, 2005 in our survey of 1 person, 100% preferred us over the other guy!
Mokele Posted August 13, 2005 Posted August 13, 2005 I'm sick and tired of hearing new "wonder cures" on the TV that have absolutely no scientific basis at all and are probably just sugar pills marketed to the morons. Ironically, the placebo effect is scientifically proven...
DV8 2XL Posted August 13, 2005 Posted August 13, 2005 I actually groaned when I read the title and thought "not another one" sorry Me too! No argument on the original post. To expand a bit, I also don't like it when science is confused with technology, or scientists are confused with engineers. And while I am at it, science is a branch of natural philosophy, that doesn't mean all of natural philosophy is science.
buzsaw Posted August 13, 2005 Posted August 13, 2005 - Creationism was "scientifically proven" until Sayonara came along. Most creationists' date=' including this one, do not claim that creationism is scientifically proven, though your quote may be a bonafide one from some creationist. In fact when presenting what I believe to be something scientifically supportive to creationism or intelligent design, I use words such as hypothesis, rather than to claim theory status. I also sometimes use the acronym, [i']imo[/i], for which I have sometimes been chided by evolutionist debate counterparts who act as though they are debating proven stuff.
Thomas Kirby Posted August 13, 2005 Posted August 13, 2005 They honestly need to set a restriction on the use of "scientifically proven!" by those outside scientific research. I'm sick and tired of hearing new "wonder cures" on the TV that have absolutely no scientific basis at all and are probably just sugar pills marketed to the morons. Also: - Germanium was "scientifically proven" to be a cure-all and prevent cancers and such by some crazy Japanese guy. Subsequently the FDA disproved it and even found it detrimental in large quantities in the body. - Jews were "scientificially proven" by the Nazis to be inferior and were subsequently murdered. - Nitrous oxide in tablet form is "scientifically proven" to somehow produce weight loss and increase healing rates when all it does is make you feel lightheaded and in large quantities is dangerous. - Creationism was "scientifically proven" until Sayonara came along. I can't stand the phrase and I can't stand how people actually think that every single thing around them' date=' no matter how farfetched, is "scientifically proven". I swear, i'm going to be a hermit when i'm older.[/quote'] Large quantities of selenium are deadly, as are large quantities of potassium. We can't live without either element.
buzsaw Posted August 13, 2005 Posted August 13, 2005 Large quantities of selenium are deadly, as are large quantities of potassium. We can't live without either element. One might receive large quantities of selenium relative to the minimum daily allowance supplementally for a period of time, nutritionally speaking and still live, the stated large quantity being within the maximum tollerance.
calbiterol Posted August 13, 2005 Posted August 13, 2005 That's all nitpicking, though. That wasn't the point. in our survey of 1 person, 100% preferred us over the other guy! And that makes it scientifically proven that we're better! Excuse me while I retrieve my chainsaw and hockey mask...
Mokele Posted August 13, 2005 Posted August 13, 2005 for which I have sometimes been chided by evolutionist debate counterparts who act as though they are debating proven stuff. We are. Only intellectual dishonest individuals can seriously doubt the factuality evolution. Or morons. Which are you? Mokele
Glider Posted August 14, 2005 Posted August 14, 2005 I didn't think anything could be 'scientifically proven'. Scientific method is not set up to prove things. It is set up to disprove. The best you can hope for is to fail to disprove, in which case the hypothesis is 'accepted', not proven.
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