jimmydasaint Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 Recent research seems to indicate information as follows : Quote What was Earth’s atmosphere like a few billion years ago, early in its history? Researchers at Penn State say they’ve found some clues by analyzing iron micrometeorites in ancient soils. These particles from space – a subset of cosmic dust – suggest that carbon dioxide made up 25% to 50% of Earth’s atmosphere 2.7 billion years ago. That’s in contrast to today’s levels of carbon dioxide of around 0.04%. There might also have been less nitrogen then than in our present-day atmosphere; now nitrogen is by far our atmosphere’s primary gas. The new peer-reviewed findings were published in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences on January 21, 2020. https://earthsky.org/earth/earth-ancient-atmosphere-carbon-dioxide-nitrogen-meteorites What puzzles me particularly is the question of how long oxygen has been in the atmosphere and its location. If the early Earth's atmosphere had carbon dioxide, where did the oxygen come from? Also, I assume that the atmosphere later on was also dominated by water vapour. Where did the oxygen come from that reacted with the water? I would appreciate any answer that enables me to learn more about this theoretical topic in an Earth very different to what we have had recently.
dimreepr Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 1 hour ago, jimmydasaint said: What puzzles me particularly is the question of how long oxygen has been in the atmosphere and its location. If the early Earth's atmosphere had carbon dioxide, where did the oxygen come from? It evolved along with life. Quote Most scientists believe that for half of Earth's 4.6-billion-year history, the atmosphere contained almost no oxygen. Cyanobacteria or blue-green algae became the first microbes to produce oxygen by photosynthesis, perhaps as long ago as 3.5 billion years ago and certainly by 2.7 billion years ago.
Strange Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 The Oxygen Catastrophe was one of the first large scale extinction events when massive volumes of a highly toxic gas was released. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Oxidation_Event
dimreepr Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, Strange said: The Oxygen Catastrophe was one of the first large scale extinction events when massive volumes of a highly toxic gas was released. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Oxidation_Event I guess it's lucky, the massive volumes of CO2 we release is not toxic. 😉
joigus Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 2 hours ago, jimmydasaint said: If the early Earth's atmosphere had carbon dioxide, where did the oxygen come from? Just to add info. The oxygen in photosynthesis comes from the breaking up of water molecules. The possibility that it came from CO2 has been ruled out experimentally by using isotopic tracers. https://www.amazon.com/Life-Science-William-K-Purves/dp/0716798565 (chapter 8: Identifying Photosynthetic Reactants and Products) Water was very abundant in the atmosphere after the late heavy bombardment. 3
dimreepr Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 1 hour ago, joigus said: Water was very abundant in the atmosphere after the late heavy bombardment. We got past that... But +1 for the extra info.
joigus Posted June 16, 2020 Posted June 16, 2020 16 hours ago, dimreepr said: We got past that... Sorry. I suffer from a recapitulating disease.
Strange Posted June 16, 2020 Posted June 16, 2020 1 hour ago, joigus said: Sorry. I suffer from a recapitulating disease. So you keep telling us. 🤨
joigus Posted June 16, 2020 Posted June 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, Strange said: So you keep telling us. 🤨 Is that imperative or present simple? Sorry, English verbs are so ambiguous...
studiot Posted June 16, 2020 Posted June 16, 2020 1 hour ago, joigus said: Is that imperative or present simple? Sorry, English verbs are so ambiguous... I don't know any married verbs, do you?
Strange Posted June 16, 2020 Posted June 16, 2020 1 hour ago, studiot said: I don't know any married verbs, do you? I know some that are conjugated 1
joigus Posted June 16, 2020 Posted June 16, 2020 2 hours ago, studiot said: I don't know any married verbs, do you? 1 hour ago, Strange said: I know some that are conjugated Oh, I get it! Seriously, guys. Your verbs confuse me.
dimreepr Posted June 16, 2020 Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Strange said: I know some that are conjugated I can smell a closer to that joke, but I WAS NEVER MARRIED... Edit, X posted with joigus. Edited June 16, 2020 by dimreepr
studiot Posted June 16, 2020 Posted June 16, 2020 On 6/15/2020 at 1:36 PM, joigus said: Just to add info. The oxygen in photosynthesis comes from the breaking up of water molecules. The possibility that it came from CO2 has been ruled out experimentally by using isotopic tracers Thank you for this I didn't know it. Biology is not my strong suit. +1 I did find an interesting full description of the chemisty of photosythesis (so far as it is known) inProfessro Downes' book The Chemistry of Living Cells. Apparently tracing the carbon with C14 identifies something like 11 stages in the order in which the chemicals must form.
joigus Posted June 16, 2020 Posted June 16, 2020 2 hours ago, studiot said: Thank you for this I didn't know it. Biology is not my strong suit. +1 I'm Jack of too many trades (always at risk of spreading too thin), so if you ever catch me in mistake, please do tell me. That book I read twice and did all the questionnaires. Covers most that's needed to get the big picture with a reasonably detailed look at the molecular, and reasonably up to date. They use it at MIT introductory level. 2 hours ago, studiot said: I did find an interesting full description of the chemisty of photosythesis (so far as it is known) inProfessro Downes' book The Chemistry of Living Cells. "Full description" is kind of scary, but I'll take a look when as soon as I can.
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