Climate Change

[FishandChips]

Is Climate change such a big issue we need to step back and reexamine the whole issue ?. One website says its a critical issue another site tells me its a hoax. I am really confused now one guy was telling me its a hoax fabricated by socialists and feminists. What are your thoughts ?

[joigus]

22 minutes ago, FishandChips said:

its a hoax fabricated by socialists and feminists.

Yeah, this sounds pretty scientifically and intellectually rigorous. Socialists and feminists, some decades ago, got together and figured out how to keep an army of scientists under their pay to go to Antarctica, take samples, and keep the world under their control so that fossil-fuel consumption suffered a severe cut so that...

Sorry, what were we talking about?

Edited June 16, 2020 by joigus
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[Ken Fabian]

On 6/16/2020 at 4:55 PM, FishandChips said:

Is Climate change such a big issue we need to step back and reexamine the whole issue ?. One website says its a critical issue another site tells me its a hoax. I am really confused now one guy was telling me its a hoax fabricated by socialists and feminists. What are your thoughts ?

If you can find one science institution that studies climate and says it is a hoax fabricated by socialists and feminists I will be very, very surprised. You will struggle to find one that thinks the seriousness of global warming in the reports and studies commissioned by governments, including the IPCC reports, is being overstated. That they are in agreement is due to multiple independent studies reaching the same conclusions, not conspiracy. We have had more than 3 decades of governments choosing stepping back and re-examination of the issue rather than face up to it; doesn't matter if they are Progressives or Conservatives, the science advice remains effectively the same.

If you cannot bring yourself to read the IPCC's reports - or just the summaries - you could try the UK's Royal Society or US National Academy of Sciences - both long running science institutions with well earned reputations for integrity as well as competence; they draw on the very best experts in the world to make sense of complex science for policy makers and public.

If you want sources that tell you it is a hoax fabricated by socialists and feminists I'm sure you can find them and you are probably entitled to choose to believe whatever you like - but for people holding positions of high trust and responsibility to turn aside from science based expert advice it is seriously irresponsible and negligent. I think encouraging the kinds of conspiratorial thinking that seeks to blame socialists and feminists and environmentalists and globalists and scientists in place of facing up to it - for political or personal advantage - goes beyond simple negligence and becomes potentially criminal negligence.

[dimreepr]

On 6/16/2020 at 7:55 AM, FishandChips said:

Is Climate change such a big issue we need to step back and reexamine the whole issue ?. One website says its a critical issue another site tells me its a hoax. I am really confused now one guy was telling me its a hoax fabricated by socialists and feminists. What are your thoughts ?

Do you imagine it's a good thing, that people are dying right now because we burn to much fossil fuels? 

Given that knowledge my thoughts are, It doesn't matter what tomorrow may bring, if we can save lives now; just by not fumigating our planet.  

 

[Strange]

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Hijack split off to here: https://www.scienceforums.net/topic/122404-nonsense-split-from-climate-change/

 

 

[drumbo]

There is substantial evidence that the IPCC's climate models do not work. They drastically over-predicted the amount of warming that would occur, and made at least two major adjustments to global surface temperature series' that concealed this. Sources:

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/348/6242/1469

https://rmets.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/qj.2297

These are not the only adjustments that have occurred. Almost all of the adjustments tended to make earlier years colder, which boosted the warming trend. It is very improbable that would happen without an intention to manipulate the data.

I posted this fact earlier, and not only was no explanation or rebuttal given, the reply was deleted.

[iNow]

12 minutes ago, drumbo said:

There is substantial evidence that the IPCC's climate models do not work. They drastically over-predicted the amount of warming that would occur

Nope 

https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2943/study-confirms-climate-models-are-getting-future-warming-projections-right/

[drumbo]

That graph uses the purported manipulated data. The original data shows no warming trend for the past 20 years.

[iNow]

My little bother just ate all the Scrabble tiles and his poop made more sense than you do.

[MigL]

Funny comment.
But I have a feeling this is headed for the Trash too.

[iNow]

He’s either trolling or willfully ignorant. It’s his ability to login that’s likely headed to the trash.