Alexander1304 Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 Hello all, Surfing Youtube I found this video, and would like your opinions folks. Please, watch it and let me know what you think. I used to be skeptical about such evidence, here are both scientific and mystical ones. What do you think? Is is real evidence or every part of it can be called into the question? Doe it prove anything? video removed
swansont Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 38 minutes ago, Alexander1304 said: Hello all, Surfing Youtube I found this video, and would like your opinions folks. Please, watch it and let me know what you think. ! Moderator Note We don’t do that here (rule 2.7) You may summarize the arguments and post them, if you desire feedback
Alexander1304 Posted July 15, 2020 Author Posted July 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, swansont said: ! Moderator Note We don’t do that here (rule 2.7) You may summarize the arguments and post them, if you desire feedback Ok,it is difficult to summarize without video, but it starts with: 1 .Double slit experiment 2. Unexplained artifacts 3.Repeating universes 4.Supernatural activity(meaning,ghosts may be beings from another universes) 5.4th Dimension 6.Large Hadron Collider 7.Dreams(claiming that we visit parallel universes in dreams) 8.The visitor from Taured 9.Lerina Garcia Gordo( woman who claimed to be from another universe) 10.Alter Vu and Mandella Effect
Strange Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 What is an "alternate reality?" Why are any of those things evidence for it? 5 minutes ago, Alexander1304 said: 1 .Double slit experiment Explained with no need for "alternate reality". 6 minutes ago, Alexander1304 said: 2. Unexplained artifacts What are "unexplained artefacts"? And what evidence is there that they exist? 6 minutes ago, Alexander1304 said: 3.Repeating universes What is a repeating universe? And what evidence is there that they exist? 7 minutes ago, Alexander1304 said: 4.Supernatural activity(meaning,ghosts may be beings from another universes) And what evidence is there that they exist? And why would it be evidence of an "alternate reality"? 8 minutes ago, Alexander1304 said: 5.4th Dimension Do you mean time? Why would time be evidence of an "alternate reality"? 8 minutes ago, Alexander1304 said: 6.Large Hadron Collider Why is the existing of a scientific instrument evidence of an "alternate reality"? 9 minutes ago, Alexander1304 said: 7.Dreams(claiming that we visit parallel universes in dreams) I can't even ... A dream is a ... DREAM. It is something constructed by your brain. You can tell this, because it bears no resemblance to any reality, alternate or otherwise. You know when you are in a dream because it is obviously unreal. Sheesh. 9 minutes ago, Alexander1304 said: 8.The visitor from Taured Was this an episode of Star Trek that I missed? (OK. Just googled it. You seem to be confusing urban legend with reality.) 13 minutes ago, Alexander1304 said: 9.Lerina Garcia Gordo( woman who claimed to be from another universe) Again, either urban legend or possibly a story told someone with mental health issues (I can't find anything to suggest the story is anything other than urban legend or just fiction). 17 minutes ago, Alexander1304 said: 10.Alter Vu and Mandella Effect Simply explained by the fallibility of human memory. We know human memory is unreliable (it is trivially easy to get people to remember things that never happened; and they will be convinced that it can't be their memory that is at fault because "I can remember what happened").
Phi for All Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Alexander1304 said: 4.Supernatural activity(meaning,ghosts may be beings from another universes) Using science to judge evidence it considers supernatural is not a potentially successful approach. It's like measuring how much concrete you need for your driveway using poetry. 2 hours ago, Alexander1304 said: 5.4th Dimension If you mean a fourth spatial dimension, there are very sound physical reasons why a universe like that would be unstable. From what I've seen, none of these alternate reality proposals are testable in any way. Does this video propose a way to do that?
Alexander1304 Posted July 16, 2020 Author Posted July 16, 2020 He doesn't say it is testable. he simply postulates it exists based on what he presents as evidence
pzkpfw Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 Cross reference (same posts at ISF): http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=345483
Strange Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 6 hours ago, Alexander1304 said: He doesn't say it is testable. he simply postulates it exists based on what he presents as evidence The “evidence” is either fictional or already has a good explanation
Strange Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 11 hours ago, Alexander1304 said: He doesn't say it is testable. he simply postulates it exists based on what he presents as evidence You need to do a better job of explaining how these things are evidence for "alternate reality". Can you imagine a criminal trial where the judge asks the prosecution what the evidence is that the accused is the murderer and they say: 1. Optics 2. Fantasy 3. Science fiction 4. Ghost stories 5. Time 6. Microscope 7. Sleep 8. Fairy tale 9. Fairy tale! 10. Amnesia Judge: "OK. Case dismissed. The accused is free to go because the prosecutor has apparently lost his mind." But before that, perhaps you can define what you mean by "alternate realities"?
Alexander1304 Posted July 16, 2020 Author Posted July 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Strange said: You need to do a better job of explaining how these things are evidence for "alternate reality". Can you imagine a criminal trial where the judge asks the prosecution what the evidence is that the accused is the murderer and they say: 1. Optics 2. Fantasy 3. Science fiction 4. Ghost stories 5. Time 6. Microscope 7. Sleep 8. Fairy tale 9. Mental illness 10. Amnesia Judge: "OK. Case dismissed. The accused is free to go because the prosecutor has apparently lost his mind." But before that, perhaps you can define what you mean by "alternate realities"? 'Alternate Realities' - other universes ,where exact copies of you, me and all exists with maybe slight variations. Sorry I couldn't post the video, he explains it there
Phi for All Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, Alexander1304 said: 'Alternate Realities' - other universes ,where exact copies of you, me and all exists with maybe slight variations. Sorry I couldn't post the video, he explains it there And like the gods, these copy universes can't be detected, observed, or measured, so there's no way to test the idea, which means any proponents are just waving their hands. If you really want to do some science in this regard, you should figure out how these exact copies could affect the universe, and then test for that. Prediction is one of science's best tools, but you can't base it on woo and poor reasoning. 1
Strange Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Alexander1304 said: 'Alternate Realities' - other universes ,where exact copies of you, me and all exists with maybe slight variations. Sorry I couldn't post the video, he explains it there And, at the risk of going in circles, is there any reason to believe that such other universes exist? (I'm pretty sure the answer is no. Despite your shopping list of fiction and irrelevancies.)
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