Jump to content

little help please... :)

Featured Replies

hey, its been awhile since i could do these, could i have a little bit of help, if there is someone willing out there? :)

 

Cheers

 

Sarah

Picture 6.png

  • Author

ok so far this is what i have gotten:

[math]

|\sqrt(x)-\sqrt(4)|=|\sqrt(x)-\sqrt(4)|\times\frac{|\sqrt(x)+\sqrt(4)|}{|\sqrt(x)+\sqrt(4)|}=\frac{x-4}{|\sqrt(x)+\sqrt(4)|}

[/math]

 

Let:

[math]

\frac{3}{2}<x<\frac{5}{2}

[/math]

 

Then

[math]

\frac{x-4}{|\sqrt(x)+\sqrt(4)|}\leq|x-4|\times\frac{1}{|\sqrt(\frac{3}{2})+2|}=|x-4|\times\frac{1}{\sqrt(\frac{3}{2})+2}

[/math]

 

So

[math]

|\sqrt(x)-\sqrt(4)|\leq|x-4|\times\frac{1}{\sqrt(\frac{3}{2})+2}

[/math]

 

Let

[math]

|x-4|\times\frac{1}{\sqrt(\frac{3}{2})+2}<\epsilon

[/math]

[math]

\therefore |x-4| < (\sqrt(\frac{3}{2})+2)\epsilon

[/math]

 

So choose

[math]

\delta = (\sqrt(\frac{3}{2})+2)\epsilon

[/math]

 

[math]

\therefore |x-4| < \delta \implies |h(x) - h(4)| < \epsilon

[/math]

 

well, yep, hows that?

  • Author

ok i've got another method....here we go

 

We want to find a [math] \delta > 0 [/math] (depending on [math] \epsilon [/math]) so [math] |x-4| < \delta \implies |h(x)-h(4)| < \epsilon [/math]

[math]

i.e. |\sqrt(x) - 2| < \epsilon

[/math]

 

Note [math] |\sqrt(x) - 2| = \frac{|x - 4|}{|\sqrt(x) + 2|} [/math]

 

Choose [math] \delta [/math] so that [math] \delta\frac{1}{|\sqrt(x) +2|} < \epsilon [/math]

 

Note [math] |x-4| < \delta \implies |x| < 4 + \delta [/math]

 

Choose [math]\delta[/math] to be < 1 then [math] |x| < 5 [/math]

 

Then choose [math] \delta = min(1,\epsilon(\sqrt(5) + 2)) [/math]

 

Then [math] |x-4| < \delta \implies |x|<=5, \ Since \ \delta<=1 [/math]

 

Then [math] |\sqrt(x) - 2| = \frac{|x - 4|}{|\sqrt(x) +2|} [/math]

 

[math] <\delta\frac{1}{\sqrt(5) + 2} <= \epsilon, \ since \ \delta <=\epsilon(\sqrt(5) +2) [/math]

 

Q.E.D

  • Author
how was all of that related to Quantum ElectroDynamics?

 

 

what are you talking about ? this is the maths problems section! :P

  • Author

oh ok , no i can't remember what is means, its a mathematical thing you put at the end of proofs, (like the little square boxes that are sometime used)

 

anyway, how was my proof (ignoring the Q.E.D bit :P )??

  • Author

or how about this: (i think this is the one):

[math]

Want: \ |x - 4| < \delta \implies |\sqrt(x) - 2| < \epsilon

[/math]

[math]

x - 4 = (\sqrt(x) - 2)(\sqrt(x) + 2)

[/math]

[math]

|(\sqrt(x) - 2)(\sqrt(x) + 2)| < \delta

[/math]

[math]

x>=0

[/math]

[math]

\therefore \sqrt(x) + 2 >= 2

[/math]

[math]

\sqrt(x) - 2 < |(\sqrt(x) - 2)(\sqrt(x) + 2)|<\delta

[/math]

So Choose [math]\epsilon = \delta[/math]

QED is an abbreviation of Quod Erat Demonstrandum, which is Latin for "...which was to be demonstrated."

 

Shall look into the problem later today.

  • Author

lol see i knew it meant something to do with proving! :P

 

thanks DQW

How do you get

 

[math]\frac{|x - 4|}{|\sqrt(x) +2|} ] <\delta\frac{1}{\sqrt(5) + 2}[/math] ?

  • Author

don't worry about it, i never really understood, i'll just have to work it out some other time :(

 

thanks for the help though :)

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.

Configure browser push notifications

Chrome (Android)
  1. Tap the lock icon next to the address bar.
  2. Tap Permissions → Notifications.
  3. Adjust your preference.
Chrome (Desktop)
  1. Click the padlock icon in the address bar.
  2. Select Site settings.
  3. Find Notifications and adjust your preference.