iNow Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, StringJunky said: Thank you. It is a topic that has haunted me for years. To me, it's like trying to grab hold of smoke. Even the present moment is not discreet, yet that’s the only place / only time we ever are / ever exist ✌️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringJunky Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, iNow said: Even the present moment is not discreet, yet that’s the only place / only time we ever are / ever exist ✌️ And yet our minds construct a temporal continuity, where we can still 'see' the near-past and 'look' into the near-future from the present. Clever bit of kit really, our brains. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joigus Posted December 11, 2021 Author Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, StringJunky said: Thinking about the emergence thread running now and this topic: I wonder if everything we observe is a function of pareolalia, that allows us to turn the scene around us into discrete things that we can give names to and communicate them. I am considering the idea of emergence as an observer-dependent phenomenon, and that's why it's so hard for me to put my finger on. No thing is actually discrete per se, since everything is connected. Discreteness of things is perhaps just a mental construct that's not reflected in reality, like these murmurations. That's a brilliant point. And kind of the direction I was trying to go when I pointed out on the thread about emergence that some apparently indisputably emergent concepts later appear as seemingly fundamental in another part of the theory, as if there was a POV-dependence that you cannot get rid of. I think this comment should be quoted in the other thread. Edited December 11, 2021 by joigus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringJunky Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 A spoonful of sugar. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joigus Posted January 4, 2022 Author Share Posted January 4, 2022 Or perhaps a pothos leaf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVat Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Quite a star(t)ling sight! I'm sure Uri Geller is envious. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 The thread about wire black corals' chirality is done, but here is another picture I took back then: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joigus Posted January 8, 2022 Author Share Posted January 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Genady said: The thread about wire black corals' chirality is done, but here is another picture I took back then: Very dexterous! +1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 I've found this 13 cm snail crawling at the depth of 3 m not far from shore. I didn't tattoo it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joigus Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 23 hours ago, Genady said: I've found this 13 cm snail crawling at the depth of 3 m not far from shore. I didn't tattoo it. Gorgeous. Looks like Minoan art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Yes. And my picture, being made with an unprofessional equipment, doesn't convey the whole beauty. Plus, the real thing has an extra effect being in fact three-dimensional. I was watching it until I ran out of air. (No problem at 3 m.) They were crawling see floors long before Minoans. Hmmm... They are very rare now. For an obvious reason, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joigus Posted January 12, 2022 Author Share Posted January 12, 2022 11 hours ago, Genady said: Yes. And my picture, being made with an unprofessional equipment, doesn't convey the whole beauty. Plus, the real thing has an extra effect being in fact three-dimensional. I was watching it until I ran out of air. (No problem at 3 m.) They were crawling see floors long before Minoans. Hmmm... They are very rare now. For an obvious reason, I think. Is there any way that you could identify the species? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringJunky Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 13 hours ago, Genady said: Yes. And my picture, being made with an unprofessional equipment, doesn't convey the whole beauty. Plus, the real thing has an extra effect being in fact three-dimensional. I was watching it until I ran out of air. (No problem at 3 m.) They were crawling see floors long before Minoans. Hmmm... They are very rare now. For an obvious reason, I think. That's called 'chatoyance'. You see it also in certain types of wood that has been finished to a high polish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joigus Posted January 12, 2022 Author Share Posted January 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, StringJunky said: That's called 'chatoyance'. You see it also in certain types of wood that has been finished to a high polish. Thank you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatoyancy From 'cat's eye.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, joigus said: Is there any way that you could identify the species? Yes, I did. It has a beautiful and appropriate name, Voluta musica. Here is Wikipedia article about it. BTW, this article doesn't list "my" island in their distribution. Also, it appears that my specimen was especially large, and at a more shallow depth. Voluta musica - Wikipedia (att. @StringJunky) Edited January 12, 2022 by Genady 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mistermack Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Iran is a great place for rocks. 1) Pillars of salt. and 2) Sedimentary rocks, not exactly horizontal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Same kind of shrimp as 3 posts above. Different anemone. Or rather the same kind of anemone populated by a different algae (?) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimreepr Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 20 minutes ago, Genady said: Same kind of shrimp as 3 posts above. Different anemone. Or rather the same kind of anemone populated by a different algae (?) Which one is more beautiful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 minute ago, dimreepr said: Which one is more beautiful? I can't decide. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joigus Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share Posted January 20, 2022 Rocks and shrimp, very nice. I wonder if the shrimp is venomous. Blue is generally associated to venomous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimreepr Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Genady said: I can't decide. What do you think? The one who let's me live a bit longer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joigus Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share Posted January 20, 2022 To those involved in this thread, please try to add some info about the thing. You don't have to write a PhD dissertation, a pointer would be enough. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimreepr Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, joigus said: To those involved in this thread, please try to add some info about the thing. You don't have to write a PhD dissertation, a pointer would be enough. Thank you. The thing is, I don't think I can... How can I describe the beauty of waking up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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