Externet Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 Words like like blue orange there voltage George tube range and hundreds more, to the point of boring overdose. With all the passion for shortening writing in english, why is the silent e not eliminated ?
studiot Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 Here are a few examples of what the silent e does. say tube now say tub say range now say rang say orange now say orang say voltage now say votag Does this help ?
Externet Posted October 13, 2020 Author Posted October 13, 2020 Excellent, gentlemen, thanks. Now am more convinced English has really absurd rules. 😮 A silent ending 'e' changing the sound of a previous vowel. It shows there is no language regulating entity. 😮
studiot Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Externet said: It shows there is no language regulating entity. Only the users - It is a democracy. 9 minutes ago, Externet said: A silent ending 'e' changing the sound of a previous vowel. Yes but it doesn't change it. The silent e means that the previous vowel or sometimes consonant has its 'proper' sound - That is the sound of its name in the alphabet. This is brought out by my examples. Though, like other rules in English, it is not always adhered to.
John Cuthber Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 It's not just the E that makes the difference It's sometimes the lack of a double consonant after a vowel. Mating is not the same as matting. It's entertaining to get a natural born first-language speaker of English to read this: I take it you already know Of tough and bough and cough and dough Others may stumble, but not you On hiccough, thorough, laugh, and through. And cork and work and card and ward And font and front and word and sword Well done! And now if you wish, perhaps To learn of less familiar traps, Beware of heard, a dreadful word That looks like beard and sounds like bird. A nd dead: it’s said like bed, not bead– For goodness sakes don’t call it deed. Watch out for meat and great and threat, They rhyme with suite and straight and debt. A moth is not a moth in mother, Nor both in bother, broth in brother. And here is not a match for there, And dear and fear for bear and pear. And then there’s dose and rose and lose– Just look them up–and goose and choose, And do and go, then thwart and cart. Come, come, I’ve hardly made a start! A dreadful language? Man alive! I’d mastered it when I was five.
swansont Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 Comments I've run across regarding the English language: English was a language invented by Norman invaders to pick up Anglo-Saxon barmaids. It retains much of this character. --- Either from H. Beam Piper or Paul Drye's English professor Peter Newman English doesn't "pick up" loan words, it consciously stalks them. --- Andrew Moffatt-Vallance The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that the English language is as pure as a crib-house whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary. --- James D. Nicoll
Sensei Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, Externet said: Now am more convinced English has really absurd rules. 😮 A silent ending 'e' changing the sound of a previous vowel. It shows there is no language regulating entity. 😮 You have similar thing in French. If you have a vowel, the letter "s" followed by the next vowel, although part of the next word in a sentence, changes the pronunciation of "s" to "z". As in this example: "parlez vous anglais?" (put it in Google Translate and press the speaker icon). It has "u", "s", and "a" in two different words. then try: "parlez vous japonais?" (listen to Google Translate: s becomes silent!) Edited October 14, 2020 by Sensei
studiot Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 Sometimes in English it is even worse since you need the pronunciation to understand the meaning. What do you think this means? I had a row with my boss at lunchtime. Spoiler One of the good perks of working at a boating lake.
John Cuthber Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 English is not the only culprit Un sot avait pour mission de faire parvenir le sceau d'un seigneur à son roi. Il le mit dans un seau et partit à cheval. Le cheval fit un saut et les trois (word) tombèrent. How do you spell the word in brackets which sounds like the English word "so" or, if you like, "sew".
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