Rights & Permissions : what to do if they do not respond?

[ahmet]

I have tried to contact wiley online library customer care and requested permission to use some parts in some of the books published by this publication but they still have not responded although two mails forwarded.(I mean,the same request  two times sent)

So, can I decide that they have already allowed me to use as they do not care or are in silent mode?

 

Edited October 23, 2020 by ahmet

[iNow]

No, all you know is that they have not responded. Lack of response should not be interpreted as implicit permission. 

[ahmet]

5 minutes ago, iNow said:

No, all you know is that they have not responded. Lack of response should not be interpreted as implicit permission. 

and what to do now,should I send a complaint form? inquiring: why don't you reply?!  

Edited October 23, 2020 by ahmet

[iNow]

There are a million reasons they may not have responded. Every situation is different. Perhaps try calling instead. 

[ahmet]

maybe,I will try that but this will be a bit time later. Furthermore, do you have information about the questions on this issue ,for instance , what does require me to request a permission and not.

 

(Specifically: I do not know whether I have to take permission on constructing a website or websites. I intend to use almost all of the codes they provided in some samples, but I also know that I would definitely interfere to that codes, for instance I shall change css part, and will add some new codes.

 

however,I shall not use any extra (for instance I shall not copy paste any else section of the book and will not use the information provided in example (appearing on that sample of website)

but I shall use just the codes succintly. 

Edited October 23, 2020 by ahmet

[swansont]

Permission requires a response. You don't have it until they actually respond in the affirmative.

 

(This applies to more than copyright.)

[ahmet]

25 minutes ago, swansont said:

Permission requires a response. You don't have it until they actually respond in the affirmative.

 

 

ok. this is already rational idea.

but contacting over the phone,will not this be non sense? because they will be able to refute later?

I think I need written (material)/ permission (like an e mail) 

ok,now I decide to postpone somethings. 

(This applies to more than copyright.)

furthermore,as far as I know copyright is not like a patent , and is valid only in the published country. But I do not really dominate all the relevant contents 

Edited October 23, 2020 by ahmet

[swansont]

Just now, ahmet said:

ok. this is already rational idea.

but contacting over the phone,will not this be non sense? because they will be able to refute later?

I think I need written (material)/ permission (like an e mail) 

ok,now I decide to postpone somethings. 

Yes, you are quite correct. Written permission, because you have something to point to if there is a subsequent disagreement.

[studiot]

1 hour ago, ahmet said:

I send a complaint form?

This is the last thing you should do.

Wiley or its subsidiaries are under no obligation to reply to you. Period.

You, however, owe the actual copyright holder a duty of diligence to respect that copyright.

Copyright arises automatically at the moment of creation of the work.

There is no requirement on the creator to announce his or her copyright.

If they chooose to do so or hand it to a publisher or other person they may do so.

Wiley will certainly have stated the rules of use or restriction on the copyright at the very beginning of the book.

However with textbooks that state their aim is to tell you how do do something, their is implied tranfer of enough copyright to perform whatever they tell you.

So in a maths book if they said "to add 3027 to 5144 place one above the other and draw a line under the stack.

Then add each vertical pair of digits, with carries, starting from the right hand side to form the sum placed under the line,"

you would be OK to do this as often as you wish.

The same if they showed you how to code a macro in Word or use the command line editor.

If however the author states in the preface something like "there are new results, never before published" you should at the very least write to them explaing your interest and offering to include  an acknowledgement as the originator.

Remember you can't copyright an actual idea, only a specific presentation of it.

 

Edited October 23, 2020 by studiot

[ahmet]

15 minutes ago, studiot said:

This is the last thing you should do.

heyy !  I was just joking , but generally my jokes have potentiality to be also real. The thing I know I do not lie.

ok,as they do not prefer to reply in the current status,I think I can postpone some operations. 

meanwhile,I was to use their materials about html+css ..(also maybe js)

but I am still not sure whether interferring their specific samples would also provide me another copyright (?) (my own copyright)

Thanks

(Could you also respond: assume please I have contacted to the author of that or any else book. Also assume that the author kindly gives me permission to use the content. Should I also take the permisson from the publisher??)

Edited October 23, 2020 by ahmet

[studiot]

56 minutes ago, ahmet said:

heyy !  I was just joking , but generally my jokes have potentiality to be also real. The thing I know I do not lie.

ok,as they do not prefer to reply in the current status,I think I can postpone some operations. 

meanwhile,I was to use their materials about html+css ..(also maybe js)

but I am still not sure whether interferring their specific samples would also provide me another copyright (?) (my own copyright)

Thanks

(Could you also respond: assume please I have contacted to the author of that or any else book. Also assume that the author kindly gives me permission to use the content. Should I also take the permisson from the publisher??)

Here is what is inside the front cover of a typical computer book.

I assume since you have your book you can find something similar.

It not only details the rights and restrictions for the reader, but also acknowledges where the authors used software to generate example pages for the book and example screens from real life.

[ahmet]

hi again;

can someone analyse this for me: 

I know a bit html + css (intermediate level)

and entry level javascript. that mentioned part of book is about a design of webpage. 

I sent request to them two times but could not take a reply unforunately. 

so, could someone analyse this for me:

i will use the outline scheleton or structure of the design (of webpage). (But I shall change almost all of css codes and some html's)

so, will  this still require me to obtain/take the consent??

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 15, 2020 by ahmet

[Endy0816]

42 minutes ago, ahmet said:

hi again;

can someone analyse this for me: 

I know a bit html + css (intermediate level)

and entry level javascript. that mentioned part of book is about a design of webpage. 

I sent request to them two times but could not take a reply unforunately. 

so, could someone analyse this for me:

i will use the outline scheleton or structure of the design (of webpage). (But I shall change almost all of css codes and some html's)

so, will  this still require me to obtain/take the consent??

Strictly speaking, yes. It is copyrighted but pretty rare a case is made over reuse. What normally gets people into trouble/caught is hotlinking(linking to someone else's files) and stealing images, however.

I'd recommend using one of the free website builder(or similar tools) that exist instead if you can.  It is perfectly legal to replicate the appearance of a site you're interested in.

Edited December 15, 2020 by Endy0816

[ahmet]

41 minutes ago, Endy0816 said:

Strictly speaking, yes. It is copyrighted but pretty rare a case is made over reuse. What normally gets people into trouble/caught is hotlinking(linking to someone else's files) and stealing images, however.

I'd recommend using one of the free website builder(or similar tools) that exist instead if you can.  It is perfectly legal to replicate the appearance of a site you're interested in.

thank you for the comment and/or help.  Do you mention wordpress or something like this? 

I did not understand the last sentence of this paragraph. 

but I can say that in that mentioned book,I would not take pictures  or any else information except the codes. 

if you recommended me wordpress..then first this seems like to escape to/through easy way. second, they use strict javascrip codes that I would not be able to dominate them well.In fact, I can normally develop very good webpages but being very busy these days , having a regular responsibility and something like these are all making it almost luxury to deal with anything else. (sorry  really I am really not a lazy one..maybe postponing something be good for a while)

thanks again.

Edited December 15, 2020 by ahmet

[Endy0816]

7 hours ago, ahmet said:

thank you for the comment and/or help.  Do you mention wordpress or something like this? 

I did not understand the last sentence of this paragraph. 

but I can say that in that mentioned book,I would not take pictures  or any else information except the codes. 

if you recommended me wordpress..then first this seems like to escape to/through easy way. second, they use strict javascrip codes that I would not be able to dominate them well.In fact, I can normally develop very good webpages but being very busy these days , having a regular responsibility and something like these are all making it almost luxury to deal with anything else. (sorry  really I am really not a lazy one..maybe postponing something be good for a while)

thanks again.

Yes, something like wordpress though naturally you should search for a website builder or template that has what you are looking for.

By the last sentence I mean that you can replicate how a site looks in the browser. What matters is that the code is mostly your own work or code you've obtained legitimately.

Good that you're not planning to copy pictures. The main problem with simply copying code is that it may not behave the same. Better to only copy what you need and then know for certain how your website will behave.

Edited December 16, 2020 by Endy0816

[ahmet]

On 12/16/2020 at 6:17 AM, Endy0816 said:

Yes, something like wordpress

hi,once again,

assume please I buy some permissions (i.e. license/copyright by payment to wordpress as they define across all the folks/users)

then ,could you further help me please (if you have that piece of the information) on whether I would be able to develop that webpages as (if it is) my own?

(I will interfere the codes via making changes on it)

one external query: do you know (if yes) could you explain whether I would make changes on same website after publishing something (after making payment to host and when the design of that webpage is already ready under assumption )

many thanks.

 

Edited May 7, 2021 by ahmet