Zahra B Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) The question says "write the formula for calculating velocity of enzymatic reactions. From this formula, calculate the velocity of a reaction with concentration of the substrate equal to 0.5 Km" Im totally stuck. I know the formula is Vo = Vmax (S)/Km + (S) but I cant solve it any further Edited November 3, 2020 by Zahra B Misspelling
studiot Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 Is this homework/coursework ? Please note we use square brackets to denote concentration; Curved brackets have a different meaning. The Michaelis-Menton equation can be written [math]v = \frac{{{V_{\max }}\left[ S \right]}}{{\left( {{K_m} + \left[ S \right]} \right)}}[/math] Where Km and Vmax are constants So the equation has two constants to be determined. A general plot of the equations shows two regions. A linear region from the start with < Km and a rounding off region where the graph becomes asymptotic to Vmax. Substituting = Km yields a point on the linear section where v = Vmax/2, as shown on the graph. This give a value for Km in terms of the others So the equation can be further simplified in this region. Since this is homework I will leave you to calculate what happens when you substitute = Km/2 into that linear simplification.
studiot Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 I apologise for the unwanted strikethrough. It shouldn't be there and I can't remove it, though I have asked the mods to do so. So please just carry on as though it were not there.
Zahra B Posted November 4, 2020 Author Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) Hello! Thank you for taking your time to answer. Just wanted to clarify, this is not a homework, its a question from an old test I found while preparing for my test next week. I believe if we substitute km/2, the linear graph moves to the left since less substrate is needed to half saturate the enzyme? I was also thinking that since substrate concentration is much less than Km, the velocity of the reaction is proportional to the substrate concentration (first order), so maybe the answer should simply be Vo = substrate concentration? Ps. I dont know why but everytime I put the S in brackets, it strikes through the text Edited November 4, 2020 by Zahra B
Zahra B Posted November 4, 2020 Author Posted November 4, 2020 I think i solved it. Don't know if it is correct but it seems reasonable.
studiot Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Zahra B said: I think i solved it. Don't know if it is correct but it seems reasonable. Sorry you haven't got the idea. But then this is algebra and I expect you are a bioscientist. Remember that the M-M equation is not concentration v time whose slope is the rate. It is a graph of rate v concentration so starts of at the origin when the rate must be zero if the concentration is zero. Let is consider the M-M equation [math]v = \frac{{{V_{\max }}\left[ S \right]}}{{{K_m} + \left[ S \right]}}[/math] [math]When\quad {K_m} = \left[ S \right]\quad then[/math] [math]v = \frac{{{V_{\max }}\left[ S \right]}}{{\left[ S \right] + \left[ S \right]}} = \frac{{{V_{\max }}\left[ S \right]}}{{2\left[ S \right]}} = \frac{{{V_{\max }}}}{2}[/math] Now this gives us two points on the x, y graph of the M-M equation, in the linear region. the point (0, 0) where concentration (x axis) = zero and the rate (y axis) = 0 and the point where the concentration (x axis) =Vmax/2 and the concentration (y axis) = KM Because we are in the linear region we can redefine the equation in that region as rate = slope x concentration We do not need to 'shift it' So at our two known points [math]slope = \frac{{\left( {{y_2} - {y_1}} \right)}}{{\left( {{x_2} - {x_1}} \right)}} = \frac{{\left( {\frac{{{V_{\max }}}}{2} - 0} \right)}}{{\left( {{K_m} - 0} \right)}} = \frac{{{V_{\max }}}}{{2{K_m}}}[/math] Which give the simplified equation of the linear region as [math]v = \frac{{{V_{\max }}}}{{2{K_m}}}\left[ S \right][/math] Now we substitute the value of concentration [math]\left[ S \right] = 0.5{K_m}[/math] [math]{v_{s = 0.5{K_m}}} = \frac{{{V_{\max }}}}{{2{K_m}}}\left[ S \right] = \frac{{{V_{\max }}}}{{2{K_m}}}\frac{{{K_m}}}{2} = \frac{{{V_{\max }}}}{4}[/math] Sorry the strikethrough is still wonky. Though I can conquewr it using MathML. Edited November 4, 2020 by studiot
CharonY Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 ! Moderator Note Edited the strikethroughs. Not sure what happened, but I had to use an editor and copy it back in. 1
studiot Posted November 4, 2020 Posted November 4, 2020 19 minutes ago, CharonY said: ! Moderator Note Edited the strikethroughs. Not sure what happened, but I had to use an editor and copy it back in. Thanks. +1 @Zahra B Good luck with your exam. If you are studying this you need to be familiar with the M-M equation so now is the time to ask anything else. I'm sure CharonY can answer any bio questions about it better than I can.
Zahra B Posted November 4, 2020 Author Posted November 4, 2020 @studiot Thank you so much for explaining! After reading it 10 times I actually think I got it now 😁
BabcockHall Posted November 14, 2020 Posted November 14, 2020 (edited) I would not assume any particular value for Vmax. Instead I would rearrange the Michaelis-Menten equation into the form v/Vmax = (S)/{KM + (S)}. This means that the velocity one calculates will be relative to Vmax. I decided to avoid using concentration brackets in this comment, because I think that they might be causing the unwanted strikethroughs. Edited November 14, 2020 by BabcockHall
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