In QM, is velocity another word for radius?

[CuriosOne]

In QM, is velocity another word for radius?

I'm referring to the idea of quantized angular momentum with magnitude and direction...The Direction is Plank's Const.

From what I gather it appears this vector direction points in "All Directions." That's where the OP question comes from..

[swansont]

No, it isn’t.

Planck’s constant is not a direction

 

[MigL]

Before asserting any similarity, analogy or correspondence between things like radius and velocity, or direction and Planck's Constant, why not do a simple dimensional analysis ?
It will save you some embarrassment.

[CuriosOne]

13 hours ago, MigL said:

Before asserting any similarity, analogy or correspondence between things like radius and velocity, or direction and Planck's Constant, why not do a simple dimensional analysis ?
It will save you some embarrassment.

Why use dimensional analysis on something that curves and bends??

Just call it a piece of pi, easy as that..

Have we forgot about "General Relativity" or Particle Wave Duality, or the measurement problem "a very serious issue?"

Not to mention the correct subset of numbers when dealing with cyphering codes pre-listed in those sin, cos and tangent functions, it doesn't work like that.

I'v done dimensional analysis for years and my research "confirms" that velocity and radius are two sides of the same coin held within a "volume" or simply the sphere formula..

The OP attempts to "RECONCILE" this at the macro level....Thought you figured this out...lol

And where does that 2 come form in h/2 = quantum of energy..Is 2 a random number? or maybe h is a radius of pi dimension..lol

Sarcastic comments derseve sarcastic responses....

Your comment is personal..

18 hours ago, swansont said:

No, it isn’t.

Planck’s constant is not a direction

 

Is his constant atleast "radial" or radiant?

Even heat travels in some x direction to a flat 2d surface....Photo electric effect is a great example..

We know this through direction and distance, velocity is a stright line to a circle.

Edited November 7, 2020 by CuriosOne

[MigL]

OK, you don't know what dimensional analysis is either.
( what have you been doing for years ??? )

A radius is a DISTANCE, such as meters.
A velocity is a DISTANCE/TIME, such as meters/second.

Notice how meters =/= meters/second  ???
( that is dimensional analysis; making sure your units are consistent )

[swansont]

9 minutes ago, CuriosOne said:

Why use dimensional analysis on something that curves and bends??

Because it can tell you if things can’t be equated.

9 minutes ago, CuriosOne said:

Is his constant atleast "radial" or radiant?

It’s a scalar. No direction.

9 minutes ago, CuriosOne said:

Even heat travels in some x direction to a flat 2d surface....

And the equation gives that (specifically, the gradient), not any constant used in the equation  

 

9 minutes ago, CuriosOne said:

Photo electric effect is a great example..

The PEE is not heat flow.

 

9 minutes ago, CuriosOne said:

We know this through direction and distance, velocity is a stright line to a circle.

Gibberish

[CuriosOne]

12 minutes ago, MigL said:

OK, you don't know what dimensional analysis is either.
( what have you been doing for years ??? )

A radius is a DISTANCE, such as meters.
A velocity is a DISTANCE/TIME, such as meters/second.

Notice how meters =/= meters/second  ???
( that is dimensional analysis; making sure your units are consistent )

Units consistent, your 100% correct no doubt about this...

And I do tend to forget about those "units" as i dont really use them at all.

Reason:

The meter uses a "random" number of 3

3*12 inches

Speed of light uses a random number of 3

3*10^8 m/s

The root of 5 also uses a random number of 3 as 4/3 in the sphere formula.

Kilogram also uses a random number 3 "expotentially."

Units are not always consistent...

In acceleration for example:

Initial start = 0 then 1, 2 ,3.....So is 0 a unit??

For rotational motion is pi a unit??

At this level units are meaningless.

Do you see what I mean??

8 minutes ago, swansont said:

Because it can tell you if things can’t be equated.

It’s a scalar. No direction.

And the equation gives that (specifically, the gradient), not any constant used in the equation  

 

The PEE is not heat flow.

 

Gibberish

How so is this Gibberish?

we left out one important connection, and that is, none of this works without the use of pi as it is the foundation of all science..

 

Edited November 7, 2020 by CuriosOne

[swansont]

46 minutes ago, CuriosOne said:

Units consistent, your 100% correct no doubt about this...

And I do tend to forget about those "units" as i dont really use them at all.

Reason:

The meter uses a "random" number of 3

3*12 inches

Speed of light uses a random number of 3

3*10^8 m/s

Arbitrary is not random. 

A meter is a defined length. We could choose a different length, but we can’t use a random length once we have done so

(inches? really? inches are not SI units)

46 minutes ago, CuriosOne said:

 Units are not always consistent...

Yes, they are.

46 minutes ago, CuriosOne said:

In acceleration for example:

Initial start = 0 then 1, 2 ,3.....So is 0 a unit??

You have given no units here. None at all.

46 minutes ago, CuriosOne said:

For rotational motion is pi a unit??

At this level units are meaningless.

Do you see what I mean??

How so is this Gibberish?

“velocity is a stright (sic) line to a circle” makes no sense. The words have meaning, but the sentence does not.

 

[MigL]

4 hours ago, CuriosOne said:

The meter uses a "random" number of 3
3*12 inches

No, that's a yard.
A meter is 100 cm ( or approx. 39 inches ).

4 hours ago, CuriosOne said:

Speed of light uses a random number of 3
3*10^8 m/s

No, that's a rounded off figure.
Actually c = 299 792 458 m/s ( but has been measured to many more significant digits )

4 hours ago, CuriosOne said:

The root of 5 also uses a random number of 3 as 4/3 in the sphere formula.

I can't even begin to guess what you mean by this ...

4 hours ago, CuriosOne said:

Kilogram also uses a random number 3 "expotentially."

That would be because 'kilo' means 1000 gm.
IOW,  10³  gm.

4 hours ago, CuriosOne said:

Initial start = 0 then 1, 2 ,3.....So is 0 a unit??
For rotational motion is pi a unit??

No, numbers, or digits, count the amount of units.
Similarly Pi is a number counting the amount of radian ( sections of arc ) units.

4 hours ago, CuriosOne said:

At this level units are meaningless.
Do you see what I mean??

Remember the advice I gave you about not embarrassing yourself ...
 

[joigus]

5 hours ago, CuriosOne said:

Your comment is personal..

How can a comment about units be personal?

In my opinion, @MigL and @swansont are investing very valuable time in telling you what's wrong with your "ideas."

You should be thankful.

Free electrons in QM, e.g., have no characteristic radius, though they have velocity.

[Sensei]

6 hours ago, CuriosOne said:

At this level units are meaningless.

You have no idea what are units..

Units (dimensions) are e.g.: kilogram, meter, second, Coulomb, Volt, Faraday, Curie, Becquerel, Hz, etc. etc.

PI, e, sqrt(2), 0.5, 0, 1, 2, 3, etc. etc. are dimensionless values. Irrational numbers, rational numbers, natural numbers.

 

Speed of light is 299792458 m/s.

It is value and dimensions together.

 

Values with the same dimension can be summed together in math equation.

e.g. 1m+9m=10m

Values with varying dimensions cannot be summed together.

e.g. 10 m/s + 100 s = INVALID..

 

But values with varying dimensions SOMETIMES can be multiplied or divided, even if they have different units/dimensions.

e.g. 10 m/s * 10s = 100m ("how far away object traveling with constant speed of 10 m/s, will move in time 10 seconds".. The result is 100 meters).

It is also example of "cancellation of units". https://www.google.com/search?q=cancellation+of+units

We had meters per second, and after multiplication by seconds, seconds disappeared from the final result.

 

Value with dimension SOMETIMES can be converted, to different value with different dimension.

e.g. 1m = 100cm = 0.001 km = 39.37 inch

100 m/s = 360 km/h

(how did I convert it? 100 m/s * 3600 s/h = 360000 m/h / 1000 m/km = 360 km/h ... It is example of several levels of unit cancellation one by one, and multiplication/division by appropriate coefficients)

 

 

Edited November 8, 2020 by Sensei

[CuriosOne]

5 hours ago, Sensei said:

You have no idea what are units..

Units (dimensions) are e.g.: kilogram, meter, second, Coulomb, Volt, Faraday, Curie, Becquerel, Hz, etc. etc.

PI, e, sqrt(2), 0.5, 0, 1, 2, 3, etc. etc. are dimensionless values. Irrational numbers, rational numbers, natural numbers.

 

Speed of light is 299792458 m/s.

It is value and dimensions together.

 

Values with the same dimension can be summed together in math equation.

e.g. 1m+9m=10m

Values with varying dimensions cannot be summed together.

e.g. 10 m/s + 100 s = INVALID..

 

But values with varying dimensions SOMETIMES can be multiplied or divided, even if they have different units/dimensions.

e.g. 10 m/s * 10s = 100m ("how far away object traveling with constant speed of 10 m/s, will move in time 10 seconds".. The result is 100 meters).

It is also example of "cancellation of units". https://www.google.com/search?q=cancellation+of+units

We had meters per second, and after multiplication by seconds, seconds disappeared from the final result.

 

Value with dimension SOMETIMES can be converted, to different value with different dimension.

e.g. 1m = 100cm = 0.001 km = 39.37 inch

100 m/s = 360 km/h

(how did I convert it? 100 m/s * 3600 s/h = 360000 m/h / 1000 m/km = 360 km/h ... It is example of several levels of unit cancellation one by one, and multiplication/division by appropriate coefficients)

 

 

Thanks this helps a lot....

299,792,458 m/s in a vacume?

3*10^8 m/s in a vacume too?

Where did that 3 in 3*10^8 come from??

Looks like a hidden variable or unit to me, and maybe that's why I'm confused on what units are...Looks like everything follows a 10, 12 , 6 and , .5 all the time wrapped up in a Base 10 numeral system that works much like atoms..Meaning you can only devide a certain number a certain amount of times...Maybe that's off topic buts it's all related..

6 hours ago, MigL said:

No, that's a yard.
A meter is 100 cm ( or approx. 39 inches ).

No, that's a rounded off figure.
Actually c = 299 792 458 m/s ( but has been measured to many more significant digits )

I can't even begin to guess what you mean by this ...

That would be because 'kilo' means 1000 gm.
IOW,  10³  gm.

No, numbers, or digits, count the amount of units.
Similarly Pi is a number counting the amount of radian ( sections of arc ) units.

Remember the advice I gave you about not embarrassing yourself ...
 

100 cm = 1 meter..And the round off figures for 3*10^8 m/s and 299,792,458 m/s "makes sense now."

THIS NEW INFORMATION "DESERVES" A NEW POST....ThnXxxxxx!

5 hours ago, joigus said:

How can a comment about units be personal?

In my opinion, @MigL and @swansont are investing very valuable time in telling you what's wrong with your "ideas."

You should be thankful.

Free electrons in QM, e.g., have no characteristic radius, though they have velocity.

Becuase embarrasing myself assumes a "future event" with the opinions of other "mind frames" and points of view, for instance number theorist would be very intrested in this thread, so would sacred geomotrist and even esoteric mathematicians, and although these fields maybe considered holistic, they stem back to the ancients and deserve to be respected..

However I just learned that.

3*10^8 m/s and

299,792,458 m/s was due to rounding off difference..I believe it's this very issue that has haulted scientific progress...

I need to open a new post on this..

But before I do....

 

Can a unit be rounded off??

Is the velocity you mention linear with magnatude and direction? If yes then this beings up acceleration.

 

Edited November 8, 2020 by CuriosOne

[swansont]

7 hours ago, CuriosOne said:

Thanks this helps a lot....

299,792,458 m/s in a vacume?

3*10^8 m/s in a vacume too?

Where did that 3 in 3*10^8 come from??

From rounding the 2.9979...

And that value comes from our choice of the meter and the second

 

[John Cuthber]

7 hours ago, CuriosOne said:

Can a unit be rounded off??

That doesn't even  make sense as a question.

Can "Thursday" be rounded off?

What would it mean to "round off a kilogram"?