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What else do you call a gross act of negligence that results in the deaths of others?  Even up to 200,000 deaths?

"Bob, I always wanted to downplay it.  I still want to downplay it."

Later Trump claimed to have "up-played it in action" and "downplayed" it in speech.  He put a ban from China, but it was porous and the virus got to the US anyhow, also it arrived in the US from Europe.  So what always mattered was Trump's choice of action AFTER the virus was already here.  That is where he "choked."  His constant downplaying caused people to not wear masks nor practice any social distancing.

"During the town hall, Mr. Trump also repeated his claim that the virus will simply "disappear." The president claimed the population will develop a "herd mentality," seemingly referencing the concept of herd immunity." 

"And you'll develop, you'll develop herd — like a herd mentality. It's going to be — it's going to be herd developed and that's going to happen, that will all happen," the president said [ herd immunity in the US would require the deaths of 2 to 6 million Americans] 

"Mr. Trump has repeatedly given optimistic assessments of the pandemic's trajectory, including predicting in February, when there were only 15 confirmed cases in the U.S., that the number of cases in the country would go down to zero "within a couple of days."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-town-hall-coronavirus-played-up-bob-woodword/

 

 

 

"The distinction between recklessness and criminal negligence lies in the presence or absence of foresight as to the prohibited consequences. Recklessness is usually described as a "malfeasance" where the defendant knowingly exposes another to the risk of injury. The fault lies in being willing to run the risk. But criminal negligence is a "misfeasance" or "nonfeasance" (see omission), where the fault lies in the failure to foresee and so allow otherwise avoidable dangers to manifest. In some cases this failure can rise to the level of willful blindness, where the individual intentionally avoids adverting to the reality of a situation."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_negligence

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I don't see what the problem is.
D Trump was right.

Large portions of the American population HAVE developed 'herd mentality'. :(

  • 4 weeks later...
Posted

Thank God he didn't actually go out and kiss all the people in his audience in Florida, like he threatened to do.

  • 4 weeks later...
Posted

Are the Dems waiting until January 21st to mention this?   Trump's constant, daily, repetitive downplaying of the Coronavirus, with his knowledge revealed by Bob Woodward's tape recording revealing Trump knew how dangerous Coronavirus was as early as February.  Trump was briefed on this by a few different sources, including Navarro.  Trump constantly downplayed the Coronavirus and continued to hold super-spreader rallies until the election.  The deaths connected directly  to his rallies was estimated as at least 700.  But also tens of thousands of US deaths can be attributed to Trump's downplaying the virus.  His early rallies were almost totally maskless, and without social distancing for several months before Trump had to concede that it was "patriotic" to wear a mask.  Then people behind him in rallies were seen all wearing masks, but the audience was mostly without masks or distancing up until the election!

It seems Trump could only be charged with manslaughter because his lawyers will argue that Trump's mind is so child-like, so self-delusional, that he could not be held responsible for a serious crime.

"In the United States, all states define negligent homicide by statute, often defining the offense as involuntary manslaughter.[1] Negligent homicide may be a lesser included offense to first and second degree murder,[4] meaning that all of the elements of negligent homicide are elements of those more serious charges.

"In some states, negligent homicide charges are possible following the killing of a person while driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negligent_homicide

"Involuntary manslaughter is the killing of another person without the intent to kill, but where the person's death occurs as a result of the negligent or reckless actions of the defendant."

"In some U.S. jurisdictions, if a person is so reckless as to "manifest extreme indifference to human life", the defendant may be guilty of aggravated assault as well as of involuntary manslaughter.[6]

"In some U.S. jurisdictions, malice may be found if the defendant's actions reflect willful or depraved indifference to human life. In such a case, even though the injury to the victim was not intended, the wrongdoer may be guilty of second degree murder."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manslaughter_(United_States_law)#Involuntary_manslaughter

"Criminally negligent manslaughter occurs where death results from serious negligence, or, in some jurisdictions, serious recklessness. A high degree of negligence is required to warrant criminal liability.[14] A related concept is that of willful blindness, which is where a defendant intentionally puts themselves in a position where they will be unaware of facts which would render them liable.

"Criminally negligent manslaughter occurs where there is an omission to act when there is a duty to do so, or a failure to perform a duty owed, which leads to a death. The existence of the duty is essential because the law does not impose criminal liability for a failure to act unless a specific duty is owed to the victim. It is most common in the case of professionals who are grossly negligent in the course of their employment."

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manslaughter#Criminally_negligent_manslaughter

 

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