Hydromonke Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 Cryonics is the low-temperature freezing (usually at −196 °C or −320.8 °F or 77.1 K) and storage of a human corpse or severed head, with the speculative hope that people will be able to be revived through advanced biotechnology in the future. Is this procedure possible and is there any reason to believe that it will be possible to revive people who were cryopreserved ?
Bufofrog Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 31 minutes ago, Hydromonke said: Is this procedure possible and is there any reason to believe that it will be possible to revive people who were cryopreserved ? No. If you freeze a dead person, you will have a frozen corpse, if thaw it you will have a warm corpse. Maybe, possibly, there is an outside chance that in the future there may be a technology to freeze a living person and revive them later. Currently, freezing a living person is called murder.
Hydromonke Posted December 8, 2020 Author Posted December 8, 2020 18 minutes ago, Bufofrog said: No. If you freeze a dead person, you will have a frozen corpse, if thaw it you will have a warm corpse. Maybe, possibly, there is an outside chance that in the future there may be a technology to freeze a living person and revive them later. Currently, freezing a living person is called murder. Are we anywhere near that ?
Sensei Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) You will be more lucky to search for experiments performed on animals. https://www.google.com/search?q=cryogenic+experiments+on+animals The main problem is that water molecule in solid state has a smaller density than when it is in liquid state. This means that after temperature is lowered the same amount of water inside of cell is taking more space, and causes microscopical damages. After unfreezing cells are shattered and unable to work correctly. There are some animals which can survive freezing and unfreezing processes. They are genetically adapted to do so. Even quite big one like wood frog. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_frog Biotechnologists/geneticists could try to identify which genes are responsible for it in the wood frog and attempt to transfer them to other animals. Edited December 8, 2020 by Sensei
Hydromonke Posted December 8, 2020 Author Posted December 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Sensei said: You will be more lucky to search for experiments performed on animals. https://www.google.com/search?q=cryogenic+experiments+on+animals The main problem is that water molecule in solid state has a smaller density than when it is in liquid state. This means that after temperature is lowered the same amount of water inside of cell is taking more space, and causes microscopical damages. After unfreezing cells are shattered and unable to work correctly. There are some animals which can survive freezing and unfreezing processes. They are genetically adapted to do so. Even quite big one like wood frog. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_frog Biotechnologists/geneticists could try to identify which genes are responsible for it in the wood frog and attempt to transfer them to other animals. Wouldn't transfering those genes in adults animals likely kill them or be ineffective ?
Sensei Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 21 minutes ago, Hydromonke said: Wouldn't transfering those genes in adults animals likely kill them or be ineffective ? Not necessarily. There are ways to introduce genetic material to adult organisms. e.g. specially prepared viruses. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vectors_in_gene_therapy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_delivery ..but in the previous post, I was thinking about transfer of genes to embryo cell, to have entire organism with changed genes since the beginning..
Hydromonke Posted December 8, 2020 Author Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Sensei said: Not necessarily. There are ways to introduce genetic material to adult organisms. e.g. specially prepared viruses. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vectors_in_gene_therapy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_delivery ..but in the previous post, I was thinking about transfer of genes to embryo cell, to have entire organism with changed genes since the beginning.. Huh That's interesting Would this likely succeed in adult humans ? Edited December 8, 2020 by Hydromonke
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