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There's an even more terrifying possibility...

Spoiler

Doing paperwork for the rest of eternity.

I'm sure it hadn't even crossed your mind.

[iNow]

On 1/14/2021 at 3:56 PM, empleat said:

BTW I have Asperger, I don't include emotions into my thinking:

14 hours ago, empleat said:

Sure I feel emotions and at the end I decide always based on emotions

Lol

[empleat]

On 4/2/2021 at 6:13 AM, zapatos said:

Why would you say that?

Why wouldn't you answer the question and instead say this?! I gave arguments and linked sources, all you did - was to strawman me. Why even answer, if you gonna do this? I don't know what debate tactics you are using! But simply repeating this: "The evidence rather strongly implies otherwise."  Ad nauseam doesn't seem to me like pinnacle of a discussion on scientific forums, nor proves anything! If your believes about science would be true, you would want to refute my arguments, instead you are using logical fallacies... I guess because I don't have reputation here allows you to just say 1 word and pretend like everything I said is wrong... Cancel culture much???

I guess you are on level 1 of lower society: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_disintegration

De Ropp {https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_S._de_Ropp) about science game:

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De Ropp describes as the pursuit of "knowledge," and then outlines many of the ways that this game as well is often corrupted, muddied and tainted (by players whom De Ropp sounds intimately familiar with). Says De Ropp, "Much of it is mere jugglery, a tiresome ringing of changes on a few basic themes by investigators who are little more than technicians with higher degrees . . . Anything truly original tends to be excluded by that formidable array of committees that stands between the scientist and the money he needs for research. He must either tailor his research plans to fit the preconceived ideas of the committee or find himself without funds. Moreover, in the Science Game as in the Art Game there is much insincerity and a frenzied quest for status that sparks endless puerile arguments over priority of publication. The game is played not so much for knowledge as to bolster the scientist's ego."

Source: https://archive.org/stream/selfrealization/Robert-S-De-Ropp--The-Master-Game_djvu.txt

He says essentially it is a pointless game and it is better to go entrepreneurial! And this is only from 20st. Now it is even 1000 times worse. We already live in post-apocalyptic era, democracy is dead! Globalism rules!

Capitalism is ruining professionalism:  https://bigthink.com/politics-current-affairs/capitalism-safeguarding?rebelltitem=2#rebelltitem2

Don't get me even started on neolibs... https://www.jstor.org/stable/25746358?seq=1

Today in western societies everything (meant metaphorically - almost everything) aka from large part is about:

- money

- power

- status

- individualism

- consumerism

And this legislative passes, it will allow neolibs to create their own state with its own municipal goverment, sure their 1st priority will be to promote scientific ideals!

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/in-nevada-desert-blockchains-llc-aims-to-be-its-own-municipal-government-01613252864

BTW how are your science ideals holding now during COVID pandemic? When every pharma hogging vaccines for themselves. And patenting. BTW top 25 pharmas make more than top 25 IT companies in USA!!! WHO is incompetent, Powerless! As our political leaders!

Moonshot is non-profit organization researching COVID vaccines based on pro bono funding and bootstrap grants. They share their research freely with scientific community! It was carried out using FAH https://foldingathome.org/foldinghome. which is platform for shared computing, they achieved more FLOPS than top 5 supercomputers in the world together, yet with lower environmental costs!!! Woah!

They asked NIH for funding and they were refused, apparently it was not even worth of their time! Again this could be for various reasons so don't quote me on this... I Am just mentioning this as interestingness.

So again science is largely social as like 80% of all jobs! Scientists are still human beings!!! Provide any counter-arguments, or do not answer!

Edited April 5, 2021 by empleat