Klaynos Posted August 20, 2005 Posted August 20, 2005 No: E2=(m0c2)2+(pc)2 There is limited mass, there is a max momentum therefore there is limited energy. Or something like that... ||edit Urm not quite sure what I'm supposed to be saying, sleepy
ydoaPs Posted August 20, 2005 Posted August 20, 2005 Given infinite mass..since matter and energy are different forms of the same thing, if you have infinite mass, you will have infinite energy. he didn't say anything about how much mass there is.
danny8522003 Posted August 20, 2005 Posted August 20, 2005 Dose E = MC2 equal infinite energy? What numbers are you putting into it? E and m are definite numbers and cannot be infinite unless the other is. The equation just states that energy and mass are related with the square of c as a factor.
wormholeman Posted August 20, 2005 Author Posted August 20, 2005 E=energy (=comes from) M=mass at C=speed of light, squared=space. Thats how I understand it.
ydoaPs Posted August 20, 2005 Posted August 20, 2005 as stated before, you are missing the term with momentum.
wormholeman Posted August 20, 2005 Author Posted August 20, 2005 why dose something that has a limited mass that can always remain at a speed have limited energy?
ydoaPs Posted August 20, 2005 Posted August 20, 2005 why dose something that has a limited mass that can always remain at a speed have limited energy? what does speed have to do with anything? what is this speed relative to anyway? limited mass = limited energy.
danny8522003 Posted August 20, 2005 Posted August 20, 2005 You mean why does an object travel at a constant speed without having to use up infinite energy?
wormholeman Posted August 20, 2005 Author Posted August 20, 2005 or ya, why dose an object traveling at a constant speed use up any energy in space where there is no gravity?
wormholeman Posted August 20, 2005 Author Posted August 20, 2005 what does speed have to do with anything? what is this speed relative to anyway? limited mass = limited energy. if theres speed theres acceleration.
ydoaPs Posted August 20, 2005 Posted August 20, 2005 F=ma. if F=0, then a=0. if a=0, v=constant, not negative. there has to be a force acting to slow an object down. fyi, there is gravity in space.
ydoaPs Posted August 20, 2005 Posted August 20, 2005 if theres speed there acceleration.not necesarily
wormholeman Posted August 20, 2005 Author Posted August 20, 2005 dose not zero G equal no gravity? I thought in space there was zero G, no gravity.
danny8522003 Posted August 20, 2005 Posted August 20, 2005 When you say "in space", i take it you mean without a force acting against the pushing force? If that's the case then it will only use the energy required to accelerate it to a constant velocity. If you however speed it up fast enough (near c) in this Universe, it begins to get more massive because of the energy it contains from the original push and becomes harder and harder to accelerate further. That's why reaching c with a rest mass of >0 is impossible because an infinite amount of energy would be required.
danny8522003 Posted August 20, 2005 Posted August 20, 2005 dose not zero G equal no gravity? I thought in space there was zero G, no gravity. Gravity exists everywhere within this Universe, zero G implies no curvature of space-time in the region.
danny8522003 Posted August 20, 2005 Posted August 20, 2005 You're welcome, i hope that's cleared things up for you
ydoaPs Posted August 20, 2005 Posted August 20, 2005 If you however speed it up fast enough (near c) in this Universe' date=' it begins to get more massive because of the energy it contains from the original push and becomes harder and harder to accelerate further. That's why reaching c with a rest mass of >0 is impossible because an infinite amount of energy would be required.[/quote']LIES! Creationist Lies! mass does not increase. mass is constant. momentum increases. [math]\rho=\frac{h}{\lambda}[/math] [math]d=\frac{d}{\gamma}[/math] [math]\lambda=\frac{\lambda}{\gamma}[/math] [math]\frac{h}{\lambda}=\frac{h{\gamma}}[/math] [math]\rho={\rho}\gamma[/math]
danny8522003 Posted August 20, 2005 Posted August 20, 2005 I dont know how you managed to label me a creationist from that, i assure you i am not one. Although you're right, mass doesn't change the objects momentum does. I dunno why i said mass, must be tired *yawns*.
ydoaPs Posted August 20, 2005 Posted August 20, 2005 I dont know how you managed to label me a creationist from that' date=' i assure you i am not one. Although you're right, mass doesn't change the objects momentum does. I dunno why i said mass, must be tired *yawns*.[/quote'] the creationist bit was a joke
wormholeman Posted August 20, 2005 Author Posted August 20, 2005 Man! I wish things could be explained in simple terms always. It would make things much easyer...One question though what the hell is a creationist and why is it so bad? I am a musician, I create, should I be offended? whats up?
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